Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have an S-10 electric conversion with 20 6 Volt golf cart batteries. They have studs. I am on my 2nd set of batteries and haven't melted any lead or had any studs pull out. I tighten them with a small (6) wrench wrapped in electrical tape, so can't

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2014 12:39 PM, Roland wrote: Are you guys talking about the low profile studs or the high auto post with imbedded stud? I believe mine are the low profile...I certainly couldn't get a regular auto post style connector on them...the lead

Re: [EVDL] FLA battery terminals lugs

2014-06-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2014 10:19 AM, KenA via EV wrote: I'm tempted to build a set of lugged cables to try but I think my use pattern may be the real culprit here. My commute is now 15 miles of mostly highway travel - typically at 55mph. It's not uncommon

Re: [EVDL] Vibration

2014-06-09 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One thing to check is your non-drivetrain elements, although if you get the vibration without moving in neutral it's probably in the drivetrain. The reason I mention it is that our car had developed a vibration at the 58-60 MPH speed range, and it

Re: [EVDL] electric leaf blower hovercraft

2014-07-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've seen plans on the Internet to make a small (3-5 foot diameter sit on disk) Hovercraft out of a piece of plywood and an (ICE) leaf blower (+thick plastic shower curtain skirt). Unfortunately, my little Black Decker hard surface sweeper

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-02 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anybody mentioned the Echo Drive (by Echo Automotive) yet? It sounds like it is a VERY close fit to what the original poster was looking for. Basically the Echo Drive is a motor that bolts onto the end of the transmission and connects to (a

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2014 04:11 PM, Roger Stockton via EV wrote: Most likely a mechanical issue with the ganged caps. Given that you water infrequently, you might want to check with your dealer to see if they will supply you with individual caps. The

Re: [EVDL] Flooded lead-acid ooopsie and how to correct best?

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2014 08:57 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: On 08/12/2014 02:39 PM, Peter C. Thompson via EV wrote: Another option is to add in an automatic water refill system, similar to this: http://www.aquapro.net/overview_what.html That does

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2014 07:54 PM, Ben Apollonio via EV wrote: True enough, but if a 200Ah cell fails shorted, it still has 200Ah to dump all by itself, which is likely to be equally catastrophic. I think the probability of occurrence is higher with 200 1Ah

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2014 09:12 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: So, if you want individual fusible cells, then a bus bar on both terminals won't work. One side can be spot welded but the other side needs the fuse wire - or something. Not sure how that

Re: [EVDL] CALB bolt terminals getting hot -

2014-08-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/20/2014 10:22 AM, Lee Hart wrote: Jay Summet via EV wrote: The eSamba guy is using a piece of fuse wire to each cell, so that if a single cell shorts out, the fuse wire blows... That's a good plan. Do you know how he tested it, to be sure the fuse wire is sized right to actually

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Incentives make buying a new EV better than buying used

2014-08-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/22/2014 10:25 AM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: LeasePurchase Year 1-3 Downpayment $2400$2400 36 payments @ $ 199$ 300 Year 4-5 downpayment $2400$ 0 24 payments @ $ 199$ 0 Total: $16740

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Should Extension Cords Be Used With Plugins?(don't get burned)

2014-12-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
My vehicle has an old-fashioned dumb charger that contains a (resonant) transformer, so the lower the input voltage, the lower the current. I have a 120 volt QuickCharge brand boat anchor (super big transformer) charger and it has that same feature. It slows down when you only get 108

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 02/04/2015 10:15 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Jay Summet via EV wrote: I'm looking to buy a kit (or an assembled) battery charger for a 120v lead acid system, with an eye to upgrading to a LiIon system in the future (also near 120-130 volts, limited by my controller/motor combo). Hi Jay

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/29/2015 11:00 PM, Don Bradley via EV wrote: Jay, You may want to look at this charger for sale from Thunderstruck: http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/pfc-ii-2500-and-charge-controller.html Thanks! I'm willing to go down to 2.5kW for that cost savings. Plus the compactness is nice

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/30/2015 01:11 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Brusa will. They're one of the few manufacturers I know of that cater both to OEMs and hobbyists. They also have a Saft STM100 profile, which you could probably edit for other Saft blocks. A 1.6kw is $1775 and the 3.3kw chargers

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I think the hardest feature that I want (w.r.t. building a simple bad boy style charger) is the ability to automatically work with both 120v and 240v input, and switch between them without user intervention. With a simple phase control system, I imagine that this would mean I would have to only

[EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I'm looking to buy a kit (or an assembled) battery charger for a 120v lead acid system, with an eye to upgrading to a LiIon system in the future (also near 120-130 volts, limited by my controller/motor combo). Requirements: -Must support customizable charging curves that I can tweak between

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/30/2015 12:27 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: Jay wrote - http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/pfc-ii-2500-and-charge-controller.html Also, the integrated j1772 signal decoding is a nice feature How is the Proximity protocol implemented in the charger? According to the website, it

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-02-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thank you for all the pointers! That said... You will need two different cords anyway; one with a 120vac plug on the end, and one with a 240vac plug on the end. The cord itself can have a connector at the other end that plugs onto the charger with whatever wiring is needed to change

[EVDL] Used Citicar in Alabama

2015-03-19 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I found this used citicar in Alabama on ebay, starting bid listed at $1,500: Item number 161641184142 http://www.ebay.com/itm/161641184142?forcerRptr=trueitem=161641184142 Red in color, sold as a project car and needs restoration, but it looks

[EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I am now the new owner of a totaled Nissan leaf purchased at a salvage yard. I'd like to hear any first hand accounts or links to tutorials/howto's/photos of anybody who has done this before. The plan is to drop and disassemble the battery pack, and re-package the modules into sixteen set of

[EVDL] Booting up a salvage Nissan Leaf

2015-03-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
When my leaf was delivered it was dead, but I was able to boot it up, clear error codes, and view the OEM BMS statistics via the OBDII port and the Android Leaf Spy application. The charging system, High Voltage battery and EV motive system all appear to be working correctly. If you are

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was searching YouTube and found a new video where a guy disassembled a leaf pack. (He posted it only a week ago, which is why I hadn't found it before.). Good info for anybody looking to do the same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dDHJKzX78

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
You can purchase them NEW instead of use. Roland I am aware that I can purchase blocks of cells (from Hybrid Auto Center, and others) which may be new, or old/unused stock, or pulled from salvage depending upon source. I chose to buy a Salvage pack for cost savings purposes. 48

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 03/31/2015 09:12 AM, via EV wrote: Anyone know what the maximum discharge rate is for the Nissan Leaf batteries? No hard facts, but here are my estimates: The Nissan leaf battery is made up of 48 modules, each providing 7-8.2 volts at 60Ah, for a total of 390-400 volt max @ 60Ah or ~24

[EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack

2015-03-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wrote up details about the Salvage Auto-Auction process at CoPart and my experiences purchasing a wrecked Nissan Leaf at the following URL, along with a few pictures:

Re: [EVDL] Seeking Advice: Reusing the battery modules from a Nissan Leaf

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 03/24/2015 01:50 PM, Michael Ross wrote: I don't know how you would determine ahead of time if a Leaf pack has much capacity remaining. There is a lawsuit out because Nissan did a poor job of pack design where high temperatures are seen. Some packs in hot climates have lost half their

Re: [EVDL] 120240v (kit/assembled) battery charger? (Open source?)

2015-01-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
A 3kW one is only $1395 http://store.evtv.me/proddetail.php?prod=203vcharger I like that option the most so far. (although I'd probably get the 160 volt 24 amp one instead of the 203v 20 amp one...) It comes pre-built and costs about the same as the build it yourself 12KW monster kit,

Re: [EVDL] Cmax solar concept.

2015-04-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Just re-watched the video...4.3m x 5.3 m canopy area, so 22 sq meters of lenses focusing on the top of the car. Assuming 1kW per square meter, 50% for focusing loss, and 80% loss for solar panel conversion efficiency...(22 * .5 * .2 = 2.2) that gives 2.2 kWh of power (for say 5-6 hours a

Re: [EVDL] Cmax solar concept.

2015-04-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
YouTube url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc2rZC4vSqQ I believe this has been discussed on the list before. Issues I remember: -on 300 watts of power under full sunlight, so needs a solar concentrator carport to give more power. (how much more is not strictly specified, but it looks

Re: [EVDL] mini bms cellmods

2015-04-20 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/19/2015 11:51 PM, ken wrote: The ones I use start Shunting at 3.65 and HVC at 4.00 . Dimitri from Clean Power Auto recommended against lowering the default settings as it would leave capacity on the table (make it unable to charge to

Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.

2015-05-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a low range S-10 pickup conversion with lead acid batteries. (I limit it to 20 miles a charge with new batteries, and after a year or two the usable range is closer to 15 miles.) It's also relatively inefficient, especially for the stop and go

Re: [EVDL] How to open a 2013 leaf battery pack.

2015-04-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/18/2015 11:13 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Jay, thanks for all the valuable information on procuring and opening a Leaf battery pack. Look forward to you getting it installed in your S-10. I'll actually be taking things easy for a while,

Re: [EVDL] Removing a Nissan Leaf battery without an auto lift

2015-04-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Thanks, you had mentioned that they were sealed well before, and you are right! I didn't have an Air Chisel, and it was a REAL CHORE removing it with a hammer and 11/2 putty knife! I probably spent 2 hours breaking the seal But I eventually got it open:

[EVDL] Removing a Nissan Leaf battery without an auto lift

2015-04-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was able to remove the Nissan Leaf battery using just jackstands and 3 jacks on a concrete pad without too much pain and anguish. Writeup with pictures here:

[EVDL] Anybody want a leaf drive-train minus the battery? $1, 500 OBO + delivery costs from Atlanta

2015-04-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I was able to boot up the leaf and get it moving around under it's own power. (with wheel dollies under the rear wheels). Video here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/03/31/its-alive/ So the entire drive-train up front is in working order. (charger, inverter, motor, gearbox, steering, all

Re: [EVDL] simple AC

2015-06-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sold a leaf compressor from my salvage Nissan Leaf to a guy who was going to use it in his conversion (Mazda rx-7?). It had two orange wires that were directly from the battery voltage, and then some smaller wires that I assume were the 12v

Re: [EVDL] GC batteries

2015-05-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But the truth is that lead SLI batteries are good enough for the job, and they are CHEAP... cheap wins every time. One place where Lithium may work better over Lead is for instant/auto start/stop applications. (where the starter is much

Re: [EVDL] Success!

2015-05-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/31/2015 10:33 PM, Ben Goren wrote: On May 31, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Jay Summet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: The 2013 battery modules do have more air holes in them for passive thermal heating than the 2011/2012 modules. That sparks

Re: [EVDL] Success!

2015-05-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FWIWI believe that the thermal control on the 2013 batteries is a set of heaters that can be turned on, and does not include any active cooling. You can see what I think are the heater elements in the upper right of this image:

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Why Aren't Electrical Cars Sales Better? It's the battery.

2015-05-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2015 02:00 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Fri May 29 16:19:59 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said: Seems impossible to monitor how can they know how far I drove? There's this wonderful new invention that most cars have in them. It's

Re: [EVDL] GC batteries

2015-05-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had Sams Club batteries in my S10 EV (20 of them) for my first pack. They were Energizer EGC2 batteries. (The cost was around $1700 5-6 years ago.) They lasted 2 years with good service, and I eked out another 3/4 of a year with reduced

Re: [EVDL] leaf 60ah vs calb 60ah cells

2015-06-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/2015 09:08 AM, Matt Lacey via EV wrote: For the case of like a 60 volts to 125 volts for a traction pack for like a scooter.. why do some choose leaf cells ? seems like you have to get a more specialised/ costly BMS like orion. I've

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hey Buddy, Wanna buy a hot battery-pack cheap? CL-ad (v)

2015-05-26 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/26/2015 09:09 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: The silver lining is that battery theft could decline as the market share for fully electric vehicles grows, as the batteries for such vehicles will most likely be so heavy that it would be

Re: [EVDL] Difference in water use per cell for GC batteries

2015-08-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have seen that when a Lead pack gets older the batteries definately start to use a LOT more water. However, it is usually (somewhat) evenly distributed across all of the batteries/cells. (I did have a situation where one battery used up more watter than the others, and it was going bad

Re: [EVDL] Old pack some cells using more water: Difference in water ...

2015-08-18 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/18/2015 06:08 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: IMO, I would say you have gotten your money out of that old pack, and should get a new pack so you can continue to enjoy your baby :-) I agree, using Sams Club batteries I just got 3.75 years of life, and it looks like my pack of Interstate

Re: [EVDL] Tesla power.

2015-08-23 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Did NOT work for me. (and I was logged into Facebook at the time.) Jay On 08/23/2015 11:25 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Worked for me. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2015, at 1:38 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On 22 Aug 2015 at 19:31, Lawrence Rhodes via EV

Re: [EVDL] BMS/ leaf 60ah vs calb 60ah cells

2015-06-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is the link to the MiniBMS units: http://minibms.mybigcommerce.com/minibms-cell-module/ You buy the 4.2 volt - LiNMC cells ( Leaf, Volt, etc ) option. Jay On 06/29/2015 06:21 PM, ken via EV wrote: Is there anohter BMS to use for leafs cells

[EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?

2015-08-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I will soon be replacing the lead acid golf cart batteries in my truck with lithium cells (from a Nissan Leaf). Currently, the battery boxes are lined with (decaying) 3/16 plywood, as well as 1/2 insulation foam on the bottom, as well as surrounding the batteries. I'm interested in

Re: [EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?

2015-08-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/06/2015 11:24 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: I like epoxy-based spray-in pickup truck bedliner material. (Not the rubbery glop, but the rock-hard stuff that you mix and apply with an undercoating gun while wearing a good respirator.) You can apply it right over bare, clean,

Re: [EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?

2015-08-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Any reason to use high density (HDPE) or ultra high molecular weight (UHMW) over the more inexpensive low density (LDPE)? Jay On 08/06/2015 09:13 PM, Paul Dove via EV wrote: Polyethylene

Re: [EVDL] Lead GC battery capacity

2015-07-25 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you are using GC2 style 6 volt golf cart batteries, they are usually rated in minutes of 75 amp draw (Mine are 107 minutes). They are rated at 208 AH (if you draw them down over 20 hourswhich is unrealistic) and can probably deliver 110 or so

[EVDL] 2011/2012 Nissan Leaf battery settlement....

2015-07-16 Thread Jay Summet via EV
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-battery-settlement-get-final-approval/ I hadn't heard much about this class action lawsuit, but apparently any 2011/2012 leaf owners with less than 9 capacity bars will be getting a brand new battery, and free access

[EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I've taken the J1772 inlet & cable from my salvaged (2013) Nissan Leaf and am planning on connecting it up to the new charger for my S-10 pickup truck conversion. It has the standard 5 pins (Hot/Hot/Ground/Proximity/Pilot). The two hots connect to two large orange wires. The Proximity/Pilot

Re: [EVDL] Best year of Leaf to buy used.

2015-11-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I would recommend staying away from the 2011/2012 leafs for several reason: 1) Parts for the 2013 leaf work with 2014/2015 (and probably 2016). Between the 2012 and 2013 they upgraded quite a few things (probably improving most of them). For example, they moved from using external chargers

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-14 Thread Jay Summet via EV
themselves...) Jay On 11/14/2015 10:02 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: Jay, is the inlet lighted? Could it be ground returns for LED's? Al On 11/12/2015 9:34 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: I've taken the J1772 inlet & cable from my salvaged (2013) Nissan Leaf and am planning on connecting it

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-15 Thread Jay Summet via EV
and newer model years. Not sure if the J1772 wiring involved anything with the lighting setup. Tom Keenan On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Jay Summet via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: The charging "bay/door area" on the Leaf is lighted, but that light is in a different location a

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-15 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Yes I did, but I'm afraid I already sold it to Bill Dennis. Jay On 11/15/2015 11:01 AM, Paul Wallace via EV wrote: Jay, did you have a Chademo connector that survived the crash? I've been looking for one for my S10. thanks, Paul Wallace ___

Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

2015-11-15 Thread Jay Summet via EV
- Original Message - *From:* Jay Summet via EV <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> *To:* Electric Vehicle Discussion List <mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] Extra ground wires on Nissan Leaf J1772 inlet & cable?

[EVDL] How to build a 16 volt / 180 AH battery from six Nissan Leaf cells

2015-10-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I've finished building eight "batteries" from my salvaged Nissan Leaf pack. Each battery is ~16 volts and 180 Ah (3P2S arrangement of modules) and weights just under 60 lbs. My final pack will be ~128 volts and 180 Ah and weigh under 480 lbs. You can watch a video of the build here:

Re: [EVDL] Emotorworks (Juicebox) customer support

2015-10-16 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 10/16/2015 02:13 PM, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > > Jay Summet wrote >> >> The only downside I see with the JuiceBox is that it is (not yet) UL > Certified, although they >> claim to be undergoing that multi-month long certification process now. This > is disclosed >> on the website if

Re: [EVDL] Emotorworks (Juicebox) customer support

2015-10-16 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I also just purchased a JuceBox Pro 40. It worked exactly as it was supposed to, the (android app) is simple but works exactly as it is supposed to, and when I asked them to send me an invoice via email they got back to me within 24 hours. I have not asked any technical questions, but my

Re: [EVDL] suggestions for non-conductive battery box liner?

2015-08-31 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 08/31/2015 05:58 PM, Peri Hartman wrote: Well, there's a lot of good to say about plywood. It's non conductive, extremely strong, flexible, won't corrode, won't melt, easy to work with, relatively light. It burns and rots are it's two drawbacks. You might not have a rot problem any more

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: UL-unqualified EVSE lost EVr a $500 utility PSE rebate

2015-09-16 Thread Jay Summet via EV
This story worried me for a bit, as I had just ordered a JuiceBox to install in Atlanta, GA and am planning on applying for the GaPower $250 rebate. I went back and double checked the terms of the GaPower rebate form and it has no "UL Listed" requirement, so hopefully this won't affect those

Re: [EVDL] EV pioneers

2015-10-01 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I now have 45kW of Nissian battery pack in the EV. Parallel six strings of batteries for 226 volts per string for a total of 199.8 AH. I'm confused about the number of Leaf modules you have installed. Each module is two cells and around 8 volts (8.4 max) and 60 AH of capacity. 226 volts

Re: [EVDL] Light-weight 100W PV roof panel for 48V e-carts> ?Is it worth it?

2015-09-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 09/22/2015 09:19 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 22 Sep 2015 at 3:50, brucedp5 via EV wrote: ? Is this a useful product worthy of the co$t, or is it a profitable feel-good add-on for bragging-rights ? What it MIGHT do that's potentially at least as useful -- IF you park mostly

Re: [EVDL] A L2-3kW EVSE to replace Steve's WA-storm-damaged one

2015-12-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Even if the electronics are fried, the cord/gun could be connected up with an Open EVSE type kit to make a new one and retain a lot of the value. Jay On 12/10/2015 09:44 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: On 9 Dec 2015 at 23:55, brucedp5 via EV wrote: IMO your drowned-(its dead Jim)-EVSE

[EVDL] Report: Thunderstruck Motors Dual TMS2500 & EVCC package

2016-01-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I purchased a TSM charging package for $1200 (shipped) that included dual TMS2500 (AKA CH4100) chargers and an EVCC for my S-10 truck. Summary: I've been quite happy with the solution for a low cost and reasonable performance (4-4.2kW) charger system. (For more money you can get higher

[EVDL] Pictures & video of Lead Acid to Leaf modules upgrade process

2016-01-03 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I've published a writeup and pictures of upgrading my S-10 conversion from 20 six volt lead acid golf cart batteries to 8 custom batteries I built out of 48 Nissan Leaf modules. (6 modules per "battery"). You can see the pictures and writeup here:

[EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-04 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Has anybody ever melted the plastic and holder of an Automotive ATC fuse, without blowing the fuse itself? I had a cheap AutoZone in-line fuse holder with a 30 Amp fuse on the 12 volt line between the DC-2-DC and accessory battery, and today one side of the holder and one side of the fuse

[EVDL] Any interest in 120 volt Lead Acid chargers?

2016-01-02 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Having upgraded my charger as part of my truck battery upgrade, I am now left with two chargers suitable for a 120 volt lead acid pack that I don't plan on using again. I haven’t bothered to remove them from my S-10 (they sit behind the seat in the cab, and the new charger is mounted in the

Re: [EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
lay. I figured I got what I paid for. > >sean > >On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Jay Summet via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> >wrote: > >> >> >> On 01/04/2016 09:59 PM, Lee Hart wrote: >> >>> Jay Summet via EV wrote: >>> >>>>

[EVDL] Pack HV Fuse question

2016-01-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have obtained a surplus fuse, new old stock. Buss JKS 400 Bussman Limitron Quick-Acting Current-Limiting FUSE JKS 400 Class J Fuse Interrupting Rating 200,000 amp. rms sym. 600v or less A.C. I was wondering if it would be suitable to act as a mid-pack fuse on my 128 VDC LiIon Leaf

Re: [EVDL] Driving on Leaf modules! (S-10 EV Conversion)

2015-12-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
If your battery boxes are a bit deeper than mine, and you can put the leaf modules in vertically you should be able to fit them. However, if they are sized for 12 lead acid batteries, you may have difficulty getting all 48 leaf modules in. I put all 48 leaf modules in the space that was

Re: [EVDL] Bew Nissan Leaf...and...Level 2 charging

2016-01-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/08/2016 12:36 PM, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: On 01/07/2016 01:51 AM, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: I would like to hear what people are doing for L2 charging at home? I'm using a JuiceBox Pro 40 (amp) box that costs $599 and comes with wifi networking and a web based console + phone

Re: [EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/04/2016 11:49 PM, Ing. Marco Antonio Gaxiola via EV wrote: Jay, The other reason I believe why those fuse melted at 30Amps even though they state like, is because in their original automotive application, usually are under temporarly loads such power doorlocks , power windows,

Re: [EVDL] Melted fuse leg (not blown fuse!)

2016-01-05 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/05/2016 12:41 AM, Roland wrote: Hello Jay, Use a Bussman Fustron or better a Bussman Limitron fuse. I have those on the 128 volt (pack voltage) side of things. I guess I could use one for the 12 volt (accessory voltage) side, but they take up a lot of extra space when compared to an

[EVDL] Driving on Leaf modules! (S-10 EV Conversion)

2015-12-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have successfully driven my S-10 Electric Pickup conversion powered by 48 modules from a salvaged Nissan Leaf battery pack. I have them wired in series, 16 sets of 3 parallel modules, providing 128 volts with 180Ah capacity (23 kWh). It took me a full three days of work to make the swap and

Re: [EVDL] Driving on Leaf modules! (S-10 EV Conversion)

2015-12-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 12/29/2015 02:40 AM, Ing. Marco Gaxiola via EV wrote: >Wow, only 10volts sag on a +41kw (+350amps times 118volts) of power, that is pretty amazing!! Well, the pack is nominally 128 volts, but it was fully charged to 131.4 volts when I started, so say 13-14 volts sag...but yes, I was

[EVDL] Selling Nissan Leaf battery module mounting plates (24 modules worth)

2015-11-28 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have some leftover steel mounting plates that came out of a 2013 Nissan Leaf battery. There are 4 base plates and 4 top plates. Each set of base/top plate will hold two "stacks" of Nissan leaf modules. I have the long bolts that would allow you to make two plates of 4x modules (2 stacks of

[EVDL] S-10 air dam, J1772 inlet behind flip up license plate

2015-11-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I've completed the (mechanical) portions of mounting a J1772 inlet, 15 amp inlet, and control buttons/dials behind a flip up license plate for my S-10 conversion. A writeup with pictures is located here: http://www.summet.com/blog/2015/11/29/s-10-ev-new-j1772-and-120-volt-charging-inlets/

Re: [EVDL] S-10 air dam, J1772 inlet behind flip up license plate

2015-11-30 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/30/2015 04:09 PM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: [ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/S-10-air-dam-J1772-inlet-behind-flip-up-license-plate-tp4678948 S-10 air dam, J1772 inlet behind flip up license plate ] I think you did a great job. Perhaps later you may want to

[EVDL] How I bought a Nissan Leaf 24 Kwh battery pack for $1344 (and lots of time)

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I just sold the main body of my salvage Nissan leaf, so aside from a few small items I have listed on ebay, I have finished recovering costs by parting out the car after removing the battery. My final out-of-pocket cost was ~ $28 per module or $1344 for the entire battery pack. Details

Re: [EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
The PFC chargers uses a 4 wire input which is RED Phase 1, Black Phase 2, White Neutral and Green ground. All four wires are use for 250/125 volts. The Black, White and Green is use for 125 volts. Unfortunately, my chargers are dual voltage and only use 3 wires, L1/N, L2, and ground, so I

Re: [EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Its use would also be an ice-head familiar inlet for them to understand and use when the EV is under their care ("Yea, just keep it plugged-in to protect the battery, while you wait for the parts to come in ... [keeps pack from bricking] ). Yes, that is exactly the type of thing that I'd

Re: [EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/22/2015 01:06 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: tomw via EV wrote: I did something similar to this, only using 240VAC rather than 120VAC. I have both NEMA 14-50 and J1772 power inputs to the charger. I used this DPST relay with 240VAC coil to switch between them:

Re: [EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Here is the specific circuit I have designed. http://s9.postimg.org/ikp4miuhb/inlet_schematic.png I would like any feedback on the above schematic. (Note that it only shows the 240 volt power from the J1227 and 120 volt power from the RV inlet, the Prox/Pilot lines from the J1227 are

Re: [EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
ire to steal copper, and it also wouldn’t allow me to sell the portable J1772. Jay On 11/21/2015 09:05 PM, Haritech (Gmail) wrote: Any reason not to just use a J1772 portable charger? Lawrence On Nov 21, 2015, at 13:57, Jay Summet via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Here is the specific circ

[EVDL] Two charging inlets - relay "interlock" / safety question

2015-11-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I'm upgrading my charger, and the new charge controller supports j1772 signalling (and I have it working with a j1772 inlet). But, it also supports 4 user selectable profiles via a rotary switch, so I could program one of the profiles to NOT use j1772 signalling and assume the input is 120

Re: [EVDL] Pack HV Fuse question

2016-01-08 Thread Jay Summet via EV
s AC > >voltage rating. So in Jay Summet's case, his 600vac fuse is OK at >150vdc. > >> On 1/7/2016 8:50 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: >>> I have obtained a surplus fuse, new old stock. >>> >>> Buss JKS 400 >>> >>> Bussman Limitron

Re: [EVDL] Nominal votage J1772 DC charging

2016-01-11 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/11/2016 08:00 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: It also appears that EMW has now UL-certified its products, seeing that they are awarded contracts under CPUC's DRAM with all 3 investor-owned utilities: http://emotorwerks.com/component/content/article/89-emotorwerks/emotorwe

Re: [EVDL] How to find the true state of a Leaf battery pack.

2016-01-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I recommend buying an entire wrecked car from an auto insurance auction. That way you know why it's being sold (car wrecked, not due to problems with the battery). In many cases, if you can get the 12 volt system to power up you can plug in a bluetooth OBDII interface and use LeafSpy to talk

Re: [EVDL] 12v tales

2016-06-06 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 06/06/2016 03:04 PM, Jan Minnie via EV wrote: I'm new to this and your discussion has me totally confused. What is the verdict? Sep 12v Battery for accessories or not?? You should use a 12 v battery as well as a DC/DC converter or alternator to keep it charged. The 12 volt battery will

Re: [EVDL] 2011 Leaf pack disassembly

2016-05-29 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Phew! That's a full days work! At least that cart put it up at a nice working height so you didn't have to stoop over all day Jay On 05/29/2016 03:18 AM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Today I bought a 2011 Leaf battery pack and completely dis-assembled it, to take it home in my Prius,

Re: [EVDL] ISO Custom Lithium Pack info

2016-06-22 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 06/22/2016 09:28 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: Personally, at this point, I would go with the Leaf pack. There have been some people on the list who have been doing that lately. I did that with my S-10 Conversion, and am very happy with the performance and final result. You will

Re: [EVDL] Sizzling and steaming cooked (RIP) flooded battery ...

2016-01-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I have luckily never steamed/cooked a golf cart battery, but in the two packs of golf cart batteries I have had, there was always one battery that failed "first". I have a (now no longer available for purchase) PakTrakr system that reports on the voltage level of each battery, and this was

Re: [EVDL] How to find the true state of a Leaf battery pack.

2016-01-10 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Yes, the LeafSpy app (costs $15 for the pro version, or you can get the free trial version) on an android device that supports BLUETOOTH paired with a BLUETOOTH OBDII dongle is the way to go. Jay ___ UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: [EVDL] Pack HV Fuse question

2016-01-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
For anybody searching later: I ended up buying a Shawmut A25X400, 400A fuse which is a direct substitute for the Littelfuse L25S-400 by the controller. I also purchased a pair of Littelfuse LSCR001 400A 1000V Fuse Holders to mount it. Jay On 01/07/2016 08:50 PM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: I

Re: [EVDL] Leaf donor car? Re: Books on converting a car to ev?

2016-01-13 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 01/13/2016 04:01 PM, via EV wrote: BTW, the target price for the finished car is $150,000 (recommended by the business advisors). No money to be made building these and selling them for less than that. If this doesn't work I'll still have a nice and unique EV sports car for a fraction

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