Re: [EVDL] V2G at L1 is practical

2014-06-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I think a better solution would be to make a charger that *compensates* for the power factor of the home ...Such a charger won't just have a do no harm effect; it will *improve* the power factor of the house!-- Remind me We dont pay for bad power factor do we? Do our electric meters read

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chicago quilter plugs-into her new Focus-EV cutie ...

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
My 2 cents. Anyone who buys an EV with the idea of routine public charging does not understand the value promise of an EV. Why hassle with public charging stations when the whole idea of abandoning gas was to avoid public gas stations??? She says herself that she does not drive much. And a

[EVDL] Exploding cell

2014-06-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Kaboom goes the cell! Was testing a battery module from my Prius on a battery analyzer. The test plan begins with a several minute no-load, then a 1C load for up to 1 hour, then a several minute no-load, then a charge at 1C until peak voltage is detected. After 3 minutes, a cell exploded

Re: [EVDL] [EVADC Listserve] Exploding cell

2014-06-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The prius has 28 modules, and each module (about the size of a paper back book, only taller) has 6 cells. Each cell is about a 5 AH cell. So the module voltage was about 7.5 volts. Bob *From:* ev...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ev...@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:20 AM

Re: [EVDL] Gas tax is not working to cover the entire road (Raise it!)

2014-06-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
road wear is not the only social negative caused by vehicles. ... noise and air pollution are pretty close to the top. EVs have a positive impact on these factors. Here's how we say it on this web page: http://aprs.org/EV-and-gas-taxes.html EV's are getting free ride on the highways, but are

[EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts

2014-06-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Generally, Hydrogen for transportation (no infrastructure) makes little sense compared to EV’s (everyone has an outlet in their garage). The business model for hydrogen cars is very weak (though it is needed for trucks and road warriors). BUT! There is a future for hydrogen in utility scale

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (trucking)

2014-06-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Generally, Hydrogen for transportation (no infrastructure) makes little sense compared to EV’s (everyone has an outlet in their garage). The business model for hydrogen cars is very weak (though it is needed for trucks and road warriors). I'm not sure what you mean by needed for trucks and

Re: [EVDL] gas tax (EV transmission lines, not oil pipelines)

2014-06-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
). Bob On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Somebody has to pay for road repairs. Pipelines are a different issue. Rather than spending $billons of dollars on a pipeline monument to the past, it is better to make that same investment into electrical

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Driving from Kung-Fu I passed a gas station had an EV moment

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The accelerator pedal needs a shorter name for electric cars ... Its called the GO pedal? But, with EV's with strong regen (like the BMW i3) it’s the GO/slow pedal. But when pronounced, no one wants to think of an EV as being driven with a go slow pedal, so maybe it is a go/stop pedal?

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (relax)

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Folks, EV's and Hydorgen fuel cell cars are NOT in competition. (except in Toyota's fantasy dreams).. There is no need to get worked up. EV's are far, far better for local travel and daily commuting (80% of our miles). But in the long run, when all the oil is gone, we will still need the

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions)

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Are you saying that the main problem with battery electrics is also that most of the power it uses is not renewable? Careful: Studies have shown that about HALF of EV buyers also have SOLAR or sign up for 100% solar/wind from their utilities. It is -not- a coincidence that those who want to

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions)

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Careful: Studies have shown that about HALF of EV buyers also have SOLAR or sign up for 100% solar/wind from their utilities. Very interesting and promising statistic. Do you have a cite? Yes. Thanks for making me look it up. Its actually 60% in this study if you include those that would

Re: [EVDL] $1.7 Trillion reinvested (emissions free travel forever-corrected)

2014-06-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
[corrected! And results are 10 times better!] Remember this solar investment is the upfront cost. From then on, it has paid for free transportation energy for emissions free EV's forever... Lets try this $1.7T divided by $3.30/Watt cost of solar = 500 BWatts of capacity. In Maryland

Re: [EVDL] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions)

2014-06-27 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
] Hydrogen/EV thoughts (EV emissions) Can you tell us how the survey was worded? The one resulting in a desire for renewable fuels? On June 26, 2014 11:25:14 AM CST, Mark Abramowitz via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Jun 26, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote

[EVDL] EV potential - Postal Service and 7 MPG average

2014-06-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Was shocked to hear that the Postal Service gets an average of 7 MPG in the delivery of mail. At first, I couldn’t see how those little jeeps can be so poorly designed, and then I realized that the average daily use is 28 miles with 500 stops over a span of several hours, during which the

[EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
A friend said they got a Solar City Quote for $8k for a 6 kW system here in Maryland. That’s under $1.50 a watt installed! That is a one-time fully pre-paid upfront lease. Pay it once and free electricity for the next 20 years. The homeonwer can buy out the array any time from now till then

Re: [EVDL] Solar now under $1.50 INSTALLED in Maryland

2014-06-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Actually, Solar City is mostly just a marketing, and financing system. They then hire local companies to do the installations according to their specs. Yes, they demand efficiency from those local companies, and that is where the weeding out happens I guess. Similar to my experience with

[EVDL] Battery Swap - the idea that just wont die!

2014-06-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Just because you *can* get a 400 mile range doesn't mean you should. For one thing, doubling the range doubles the cost of your batteries. It also lowers efficiency, since you'll be carrying around twice the battery weight. ... But I do like the idea of a re-sizable pack. Yes, good idea to

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV

2014-07-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I saw a guy riding one of these one-wheel thingyys and he was as artful as a Segway, and could reachn speeds of 12 MPH and in full control. If y ou havent seen one of these you wont believe it. Imagine he caveman on the one-wheel in the B.C. comic strip and that is exactly what this looks like.

Re: [EVDL] Man power EV (lesson learned)

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Speaking of maneuverability. Here is my $1000 lesson learned: I bought a recumbent trike with the idea of riding the ideal commute 12 mile rail-to-trail to and from work. NOT. The thing is comfortable, smooth, powerful easy to ride. The ideal commuting machine But I only did it once.

[EVDL] Gas Rewards - No!, EV's yes!

2014-07-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Hearing the Grocery Store ads for their “Gas Rewards” programs just hit me this weekend as being a perfect example of how WRONG-HEADED we are. If you feel similarly offended by “gas reward programs” that encourage just more burning of fossil fuel, you might want to WRITE to them and register

Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?

2014-07-08 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think that using the 85 kWh battery as a more robust solution is what I would use. For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don’t think so. The smart EV driver who understands the real value-promise

Re: [EVDL] Trailer type Range extenders

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Yes, we had a 1-wheel trailer when I was a kid and Dad loved it because he could back with impunity. But you should see how it can launch its entire load into the air when it hits a bump. Also, pulling just a tiny 4'x4' (flat) trailer behind my Prius loses 10 MPG. My trailer is a solar panel

[EVDL] FCEV's similar to Coal fired cars?

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Given the previous lambast of Hydrogen powered Fuel Cell cars… If hydrogen from natural gas is twice as bad as burning NG directly, and given that NG is half the carbon as Coal, then it would seem that a hydrogen powered FEV is the same as burning coal directly. It would make a nice summary

Re: [EVDL] Why EVs are awesome

2014-07-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
And if the ICE and EV they are similar, then why keep on burning all that fossil fuel (lots with blood on it, and sending our $$$ overseas) and ruining the air and the environment when you could actually be part of the clean, renewable energy future just as easily? Bob On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at

Re: [EVDL] Hybrid Mustang: AC or DC?

2014-08-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
One ton of A/C is equal to 12,000 btus/hr. and 3420 btus/hr equals 1000 watts. However, it applies to direct conversion such as resistance heating, and not to the compressor operated...Heat Pump, ...my home heat pump shows an EER of 13, indicating the BTUs moved...only require 1/13 of

Re: [EVDL] UCD's EV co$t comparison calculator tool is not that great ...

2014-08-05 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I would disagree that these are real-world examples. ANyone who would purchase an EV for a daily commute that needs daily public charging either has too much time on their hands, spends hours a day at starbucks or bought the wrong car. An EV is optimum when it can meet the routine daily needs

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: i3 EV self-parks driver climbs out of window to prove (video)

2014-08-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
expecting the car to plug itself into a wall outlet / cable is asking a bit much. Actually If I had the time (after I retire maybe) I can easily imagin a robot arm on the garage wall that can reach out, find and connect to some contacts mounted somehow on the front license plate area. In fact,

[EVDL] Is your EV doing enough?

2014-08-14 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Is your EV doing enough? Today I randomly found the last available parking spot at work at a Tbone intersection, where, I realized that every driver on campus has to see it square in their eyes as they made the turn to go home. Why have I not been doing this for the last 4 years?! My car is

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
how much range is enough...is it better to... decrease price without improving range or make electric vehicles go further on a charge? ​ Why not do both? Amen. I like the new Nissan concept of a range of batteries to match the individual. I do not want to spend extra 10's of thousands of

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 Mitsubishi MiEV Bargain basement EV

2014-08-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Since when has the MiEV sold more units than the Leaf? Never according to: http://evobsession.com/world-electrified-vehicle-sales-2013/ #1 is Leaf, #2 is Volt, #3 is Prius PIP #4 is Tesla #5 is Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (must be overseas) ... #20 (out of 21) is the MiEv Al - Original

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 Mitsubishi MiEV Bargain basement EV

2014-08-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
! The VW e-up! is out-selling the BMW i3! MW On 29 Aug 2014, at 00:41, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Since when has the MiEV sold more units than the Leaf? Never according to: http://evobsession.com/world-electrified-vehicle-sales-2013/ #1 is Leaf, #2 is Volt, #3

Re: [EVDL] DC2DC times 2

2014-08-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Seems like a very inefficienct system. If you want heat, just run resistance heat directly from the EV voltage. That is 100% efficient and costs nothing in complexity. Just series whatever number of 120v heater elements in series is needed to reach the pack voltage. And of course switch to DC

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: As EV battery prices fall ?More range or lower 100mi EV cost?

2014-08-29 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
in Europe... Asia, long distance is not the issue, it's car cost and range anxiety. If you can sell a car for $10k less without the buyer having to worry about range anxiety (because there is a good rapid charge infrastructure...) then you'll sell more cars. The goal is not to just sell

[EVDL] Charge Cable Theft Idea (boots on the ground)

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
IM going to ask our local EVSE MFR to give me some 6” samples of his EVSE charge cables. Then I will mount them on a small display board and see if I can get the local recyclers to hang the plaque on the wall with a sign “Stolen EV charge cables”… The conductors are unique, 3 big ones and 2

Re: [EVDL] Charge Cable Theft Idea (boots on the ground)

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: IM going to ask our local EVSE MFR to give me some 6” samples of his EVSE charge cables. Then I will mount them on a small display board and see if I can get the local recyclers to hang the plaque on the wall with a sign

[EVDL] Radios for Natl Drive Electric Week!

2014-09-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
For Natl Drive Electric Week, we need to get the word out to all EV drivers that they can all communicate car-to-car via any FRS walkie talkie. The national channel for EV-to-EV communications is channel 3 tone 5. This makes it easy to communicate with other EV's without having to carry ten

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design

2014-09-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
As the driver of a large puffy vehicle and a person living in the USA I can tell you that we own and operate these vehicles because they represent the best utility value for many. Partly because they are not paying for the added environmental damage... but pushing it off on the rest of us.

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
...then no one should be driving at ALL. Even an EV derives it's power from fossil sources in one way or another. Whoaa, that is simply not true (though the right wing media would like us to believe it). Studies have shown that at least HALF of all people who purchase an EV either have solar

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Studies have shown that at least HALF of all people who purchase an EV either have solar or buy their electricity from 100% clean renewable providers such as solar or wind. As sales move from early adopters to the more general population, ... unless PV sales start outstripping auto sales,

Re: [EVDL] Electrifying Large Vehicles converting buyers to a higher mpge design (and fossil free)

2014-09-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
. -Bill On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:59, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: ...then no one should be driving at ALL. Even an EV derives it's power from fossil sources in one way or another. Whoaa, that is simply not true (though the right wing media would like us to believe

[EVDL] Reduced range with Heater on.

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Next time I hear someone blasting the reduced range of an EV with the heat on, I want to come back with something like this: “What? The heater in your gas guzzler is reducing your gasoline range by over 70%. And not only that, you can’t even turn all that wasted heat off! All you can select

Re: [EVDL] Reduced range with Heater on.

2014-09-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
and EV's, then we have to account for the fact that the EV loses a lot of energy before it moves the car too. So I used a common comparative figure that an EV uses about 30% of the energy of a gas car to come up with the 70%... Bob On Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:31 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev

[EVDL] EV's in Norfolk?

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
There is an annual car show in Norfolk, VA 18 Oct on the military base. Anyone have an EV they want to show to the crowds? Bob, WB4aPR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] co-operation

2014-09-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
It was a rude awakening to me when I realized that all the Greatness of an EV to solve all our problems does not apply to congestion (unless one switches to an electric bike). So I have not been a supporter of HOV stickers for EV's. HOV stickers for EV's with only 1 person in them does not make

[EVDL] Electricity, Lighting and $2 gas

2014-09-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Slightly off topic. Driving my energy efficient EV home everynight , I have to cross the new Annapolis Bridge with its blinding wasteful lights. See a picture: http://aprs.org/USNAlamps.html But here is the real shocker I just stumbled into when looking at the Satellite view of wasted light in

Re: [EVDL] Building a true road going solar EV. Help everyone.

2014-09-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I have 200W of solar panels on the roof of my Prius. Did it in 2007. THen realized, why in the world waste time with 15 SqFt of solar panels on the roof of my car when I have 1500 sqft on the roof of my house! And, in 2013, the cost of 250W home-roof top panels only cost $200 compared to the

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-09-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
This is a no brainer. The value of the Tesla brand is extremely high. The negative value and media feeding frenzie of a hacker-induced fire, crash, or ANYTHING that would spoil the brand name is simply not worth the risk. I don't blame Tesla. If the guy wants to hack a tesla, then simply sign

Re: [EVDL] warp 9 has gone sparky sparky

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Didja check the brushes? Bob On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ben Jarrett via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi All, Well, I have about 6000 miles on my jeep and my warp 9 motor started making some zapping sounds a little while back. It's gotten pretty bad now - I can even see sparks when

[EVDL] Solar for my EV

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Finally finished my solar pier enough to take some pictures. See: http://aprs.org/solar-on-piers.html Right now it consists of five 12' floating sections with 2 panels each. I can build one more section and two more finger piers and still fit within my pier permit eventually. This began in

[EVDL] Chinese inverters legality?

2014-10-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
You EV experimenters must have some facts here... Is it illegal to purchase, own or operate a non UL approved appliance? (Which?) (How do I prove it is OK)... We are trying to support a grass-roots solar panel idea for people in our church who don't have good sunny roofs or who don't have the

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-01 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
disagree. Sounds like to me they are perfectly willing to work with the guy. But the guy is unwilling to work with them... bob On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Ben Goren via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: On Oct 1, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: As it looks

Re: [EVDL] EValert: !Don't buy a salvaged Tesla EV to repair drive! (video)

2014-10-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
This is laughable. Sure the car is yours to do anything you want with. But when you want to go ask Tesla to activate it, then guess what, you are ASKING for help from someone who has a very valid reason not to want to take the risk to HELP you with YOUR salvage CAR which you OWN. If you want

Re: [EVDL] Batteries that can be recharged to 70 percent in just 2 minutes

2014-10-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I can't see why I need a high rate of charge at home. I don't need or want it. But if I lived in an apartment building where I couldn't plug my car it, being able to zap it full on the way to or from work might be the deciding factor in whether I buy one or not. Every single day for the rest

[EVDL] e-NV200 e-Van Converted into a Camper (me too?)

2014-10-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I wish them the best of luck, of course, but this strikes me as a classic case where the vehicle's 80-ish-mile range is an overwhelming obstacle. Yes, To some people. But different strokes for different folks. For most scouting weekends, almost all trips are well within range of an EV...

Re: [EVDL] Images are up: 507 EVs = New Guinness World Record @eaasv.org NDEW

2014-10-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Bruce, Tell me about the solar canopy in all those pictures. The sun appeared to be directly overhead, yet the arrays were catching less than half the sun. Maybe they are going to back fill more panels later? Or were these E/W tracking arrays? Bob -Original Message- From: EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: What Click-n-Clack know about regen (?)

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
You get no where near that much energy back. 5% on average. I believe you are mistaken. Regen... returns about 50%... The kinetic energy of a moving vehicle can be mostly recovered. Nit picking here. But 50% is not quite mostly. And recovered is one thing, but storing it chemically in a

Re: [EVDL] Heating system (AC units)

2014-10-28 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Reverse-cycle air conditioning (heat pump) uses typically three times less energy than a resistive heater for the same amount of heat. Amen. Mount it in the EV so you can flip it around. I have a window AC in a bathroom hole-in-the-wall so that I can slide it out and reverse it in winter. It

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (video)

2014-11-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Related to the image in the SUBJECT video (pulling the self-baqlancing vehicle sideways and it still remaining balanced)., yesterday I saw videos of the DARPA research on robots and it is AMAZING where they are at. They showed full 2 legged huminoid robots (with arms for balance) running across a

Re: [EVDL] Lit EP4 self-balancing e-motorcycle (cheetah)

2014-11-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
out as you approach upright to continue forward. Even with a human pilot to provide the inputs, overlapping compensations will drive these control systems nuts. It's a very real world out there, and Lit is so not ready for it. Chris On Nov 4, 2014 11:08 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Energy used in driving is simple physics: Everything you put into acceleration you get back in Momentum. Everything you put into a hill, you get back as potential energy. Everything you put into braking is LOST (regen gains some back). Wind resistance goes up as the cube of speed. So the only

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
[mailto:wmckem...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:51 AM To: Robert Bruninga; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed Generally, correct. On 11/06/2014 07:49 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: Energy used in driving is simple physics: Everything you put

Re: [EVDL] EV-spirits: Use a Halloween Costume for the EV-cause

2014-11-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
That's a no brainer. Get a Volt! original email - I have a friend who's contemplating buying a new car. I was able to get him to seriously consider an EV, but he says there're enough times he needs more than 100 miles range for some random emergency that he can't

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: CA testing 55+mpge mi-based/VMT road-tax-fees aimed@ plugins

2014-11-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The fair answer is simple. Currently EV's get a free ride on the roads but gas cars get a free ride on the environmental damage they cause. This disparity should be eliminated ON BOTH SIDES. That is, for every dollar of road tax you add to the EV, add the same Dollar to the gas tax for the

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
to slow down (reduce that cubed high speed as much as possible). On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Slower acceleration leads to lower average speed. Which leads to lower wind losses. Not at tall. You can take all the time y ou want to get to 70 PMH

Re: [EVDL] Fast charging in The Netherlands

2014-11-07 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
... a new company website who claim to bring fast charging throughout The Netherlands: http://www.fastned.nl/en -- It might be a good investment now, while all the suckers are piling on, but I'd plan on getting my money out soon, before the EV motoring public learns

Re: [EVDL] Range vs Speed

2014-11-09 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
This analysis is missing something when it implies that more and more energy is recoverd when more and more stops are made along the same 10 miles. This is voodoo economics. Yes, the perecentages of energy recovered go up but there is no mention of how drastically the total energy goes up with

Re: [EVDL] Indy 125 $0pkWh rate 10p-6a + an e-meter installation subsidy

2014-11-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Near Wash DC, the local utility offered 3.5 cent/kWh for a separately metered EV charging circuit (off peak). But that was an unloaded quote. Add in the other charges of about 4c per kWh and you are up to abou 7.5c overall. A great deal considering the normal loaded rate is about 14 c/kwh. Bob

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem

2014-11-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
My friend drove to an all day conference about 40 miles away. No problem. Plug in all day. Until his wife ended up back home in the emergency room and it took him a few hours on L2 to get enough charge to get home. He is still living that down. I am a full beliver that 80 mile range is enough.

Re: [EVDL] 5 T-Day EV Road-Trip Tips

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Don’t forget to take along an FRS walkie Talkie set to channel 3 tone 5. If Every EV driver carried one, we could chat, brag, and commiserate with each other in passing or while stuck in grid lock. Lets make this a national standard. Certainly an FRS radio is handy at EV events when EV's

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst (parking meters)

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I have looked for used parking meters to make them into EV L1 charging outlets but simply cannot find them. Yet the old mechanical ones are being replaced by themillions by new gadgetry. Where are they all going? I found one in an antique shop, but the owner seemed to think it was made out of

[EVDL] MIT-CAL Tech Clean Air Car Race (1970)

2014-11-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Subject was: Re: EVLN:Solution? Hand-wringing EV angst (parking meters) It's what Bob Rice, etc did in the first cross country EV race. They requested temp pole drops from utilities all across the country... I participated in the MIT/CAL-Tech Clean Air Car Race of 1970 and am trying to find

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
...the overwhelming majority of alternative fueling stations are electric. Biodiesel: 297 stations CNG: 784 stations Electric: 8783 stations / 21,809 outlets Ethanol: 2,453 stations Hydrogen: 13 stations CORRECTION! FACT: There are over 230,000,000 L1 charging outlets. That is the Census

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Theobald’s sun-powered customized 1966 VW e-Bus

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The solar panels on my car (200W) on 15 square feet make no sense compared to the 1500 sqft of roof I have at home. Plus they cost 10 times more on the car. Make no sense at all. BUT, I use them to make the point that without them I cnanot get home since for 20 years, the US goernment will not

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
230 million L1 refueling options in 2/3rd of all American homes... I've lived in old houses that had no easily accessable outdoor receptacles at all. This doesn't negate your point - it just changes the numers a bit But, I don't think it changes the numbers. Someone with an EV that lives in

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (Retractible Cords)

2014-11-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
I think the solution will be much more boring than that. As battery capacity increases and charge time decreases, we'll simply see filling stations morph to charging stations. Status quo. I'm sure people will continue to charge at home if they're able. The rest will use filling stations.

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (L1 CORRECTION!)

2014-11-25 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
At least in the US, it is normal for electric utilities to have made it illegal for others to resell their electricity. ...So you can't legally sell power at a charging station without the power company's blessing. Maryland and other progressive states passed legislation as one of their first

Re: [EVDL] OT: status the newswires are changing, (L1 COSTS)

2014-11-26 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
For opportunity L1 charging: I have been asking our State EV Council to publish a web page stating The cost to charge an EV from any conventional 120v outlet is 20 cents an hour at Maryland average retail utility rates. And make it in a format that can be PRINTED and carried as a CALLING CARD.

Re: [EVDL] Reporter Wants2-Talk2 Belleville IL plugin drivers

2014-12-04 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Subject: [EVDL] Reporter Wants2-Talk2 Belleville IL plugin drivers BND reporter Mary Cooley would like to talk to you about your road trips and driving habits. Call her at 618-239-2535, email [mcoo...@bnd.com ] I did, and the thing she wants to get a handle on is the number of EV CONVERSIONS.

Re: [EVDL] PNAS report cites study that EV's pollute more than gascars.

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
That's exactly my point: we're going to keep mining coal,... I wouldn't bet on that. The use of coal just in the last 4 years has gone down 20%! And there is no reason to think it won't go down drastically more. No reason to keep mining it if no one wants it. As our use dwindles, the low cost

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (inverter cost)

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Also, PV inverters are more expensive than regular inverters. Yes, something like FIVE TIMES. A 3kW grid-tie inverter probably costs about $1500. A 3 kW regular inverter costs less than $300 from Home Depot or anywhere else. Bob, WB4aPR ___

[EVDL] Pound-foolish batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
So, I have my roof covered with solar panels. my utility, is threatening to at least triple monthly basic connection fees for solar customers. So, 3 times $8/mo is $24/mo.Big deal... That is far-far (100 times ) cheaper than any home-energy storage system. Here is the lunacy of going

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Can I ask what you use for heat in the winter? Thanks Bob -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of jim via EV Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:22 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid We've been using a

Re: [EVDL] Pound-foolish batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
➢ A tree burned emits no more than a tree decayed on the forest floor. Ah, I knew they claimed that burning wood was carbon neutral, but I could not remember why. You just summarized it well. Though there are other junk from burning wood that we don’t want to breath (as noted by Mark:)

[EVDL] Grid Solar kits?

2014-12-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Has anyone had experience getting a local electrician to install a grid-tie-solar kit such as the one offered by Home Depot? The cheapest one is about $2588 for a 1kW kit. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Grape-Solar-1-060-Watt-Expandable-Mono-Crystall

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
A 20-year T-bill right now is only paying about 2.5%... Even if it takes 20 years to pay off the battery system... Batteries are not a source of energy. They produce nothing. Solar panels do. Far better to spend X dollars available for more solar panels which pay off themselves in about 3

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
that they don't have firmly under their control. It is about the best we can do at this time. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A 20-year T-bill right now is only paying about 2.5%... Even if it takes 20 years to pay off the battery system... Batteries

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
, but it is crazy to throw any more money away trying to store up to maybe 60 kWh per day in batteries (costing say $12,000) when you can store it in the grid for a few dollars rent a month. Bob. On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A 20-year T-bill right now is only

[EVDL] batteries for solar PV off-grid (Generation/distribution)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
batteries. If you are taking yourself off grid, not only do the batteries (or other energy storage method) produce value, but may even be essential. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A 20-year T-bill right now is only paying about

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
But, if the SRP proposal goes through, it'll either be a fixed $50 or $67 per month.. That is preposterous and only shows how the greed of well funded oil money campaigns can convince people against their better interest. Now re-run your calculations with those numbers and see if they still

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Efficiency... The aquair batteries... have an even wider swing-- something like 36 to 70 volts... Giving them terrible efficiency. That's almost 50%. Given that an electron-in to charge at 70 volts comes out at 36 volts is a 50% loss of power and hence efficiency. Such batteries are great

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid (cost 10, 000 times more)

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
- On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: A Key misconception here. You say they charge $0.09 for electricity used, and will only pay $0.02 for your generation. But that is NOT NET METERING. Do not be confused

Re: [EVDL] OT: batteries for solar PV off-grid

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
, at 2:21 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Giving them terrible efficiency. That's almost 50%. Given that an electron-in to charge at 70 volts comes out at 36 volts is a 50% loss of power and hence efficiency. Such batteries are great for standby back up systems where

Re: [EVDL] 100 new level 3 chargers for busy corridors

2015-01-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
What percentage of households can charge at home? That leaves quite a few who will have to find charging stations once in a while. Huh? I remind people that an EV needs to be charged 10 to 20 times more often that a gas car and so anyone who buys an EV with the idea of public charging simply

Re: [EVDL] EV conversion / motor books

2015-01-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi gang, One friend of me is moving and gave me his EV conversion books, so I am posting here to see if someone here is interested in getting them, they are: Convert It (Michael Brown) Build your own EV (Bob

[EVDL] Solar Panels for vehicles?

2015-02-03 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The reason I mention these solar panels on the EV list is because these are without frames. Maybe easier to mount on a truck? http://sunelec.com/solar-panels/sun-435w-laminates-grade-b.html Here are some 435 Watt solar panels (81” by 41”) that are only 39 cents a watt compared to home solar

[EVDL] EV/Hybrid-to-home emergency power

2015-02-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Am preparing a talk for this weekend about the unbelievable economics of solar power where I always stress the economics all comes from the absence of any BATTERY storage expense and the 95% efficiency of grid-tie and annual storage in the grid. But after several slides bashing how

Re: [EVDL] EV Demand Response - (solar-thermal-NOT-2)

2015-01-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
pools! I accidentally got my 19,000+ gallon pool up to 99 degrees F last labor day using only rooftop solar otherwise, i agree about PV, having PV since 1999 -- *From:* Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org *To:* ev@lists.evdl.org *Sent:* Wednesday, January

Re: [EVDL] EV Demand Response - (solar-thermal-NOT)

2015-01-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
... I question the value of a heat pump H/W heater in winter. If it's taking heat from your garage or basement, that is ultimately taking some heat from your heated spaces... Yes, one has to think about where it is. But my garage is not heated, nor is my basement. Therefore it is taking the

Re: [EVDL] Cheap solar for EV charging

2015-01-19 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
into the batteries, and they only handle the power going out for the DC-AC conversion, or charge the batteries from an AC source. Z On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: They also have a 6 kW grid-tie/off-grid inverter for a 48v battery sysem, but best I can

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