[EVDL] Need battery pack or sell car.

2015-01-25 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I might be able to get my Ford Aspire back.But I need to go lithium.  I 
wonder what the minimum size pack I can get by with is.  I don't have much 
money.  I'll need BMS and a charger.  Might settle for a 40 mile range.  But 
bigger is better.  I have 600 pounds of lead now that are gone.  The car 
weighed 2000 pounds and change stock.  Anybody stuck with a pack to get rid of? 
 As an alternative the Aspire with amazing performance might be available for 
2000 dollars.  144vdc system.  Vacuum pump for the brakes.  Iota DC/DC. 700 amp 
modified Curtis 1221B It is currently in Santa Cruz.  Add a pack and go. 
Lawrence Rhodes http://www.evalbum.com/418  The current state is rougher but 
all there and in running condition.  Not an inch of space inside was lost in 
this conversion.  The Aspire has plenty of space for batteries and components.
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Re: [EVDL] Need battery pack or sell car.

2015-01-25 Thread jerry freedomev via EV

 Hi Lawrence and All,
 I'm in the same boat but came up with a solution 
of buying 50% of the pack I wanted for now.  It's 
5kwhr, 120vdc tough I'll double it up at 60vdc, 90amphr  for mine of Volt 
batteries I got for $1k  is far better buy than new Chinese cells, even used 
ones. Leaf I would have preferred are even easier to deal with if you get that 
option. I asked on the list and someone with extras 
contacted me.  There are a lot of Volt, Leaf, hybrid,  totaled EV's now  they 
are showing up .    And the Volt. Leaf  is quality 
enough you don't need the expensive BMS . Instead starting with them balanced 
either high or low and use a Lightobject 404 amphr meter monitor the pack and 
cut the charger off. Then some Lee Hart Batt bridge 
to monitor the cells, connections to warn before something goes bad, gets out 
of balance, etc. Thus reasonable pack safety for under $100 with massive data.  
600lbs of lead is about 5kwhr available so 6kwhr of 
lithium should give you more range from 400lbs lighter too. 
 So many old, maybe dead EV's, conversions  could be great low cost 
EV's just by converting to lithium.
    Jerry Dycus
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I might be able to get my Ford Aspire back.    But I need to go lithium.  I 
wonder what the minimum size pack I can get by with is.  I don't have much 
money.  I'll need BMS and a charger.  Might settle for a 40 mile range.  But 
bigger is better.  I have 600 pounds of lead now that are gone.  The car 
weighed 2000 pounds and change stock.  Anybody stuck with a pack to get rid of? 
 As an alternative the Aspire with amazing performance might be available for 
2000 dollars.  144vdc system.  Vacuum pump for the brakes.  Iota DC/DC. 700 amp 
modified Curtis 1221B It is currently in Santa Cruz.  Add a pack and go. 
Lawrence Rhodes http://www.evalbum.com/418  The current state is rougher but 
all there and in running condition.  Not an inch of space inside was lost in 
this conversion.  The Aspire has plenty of space for batteries and components.
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Re: [EVDL] Need battery pack or sell car.

2015-01-25 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Lawrence,

This fellow, Jehu Garcia in SoCal, bought an enormous number of laptop
cells on eBay and put them together in a pack for his VW bus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4hhMQh3SzM

There are videos chronicling all the gory details.  I am sure you could
talk to him about that experience, and he might have other ideas for frugal
Li-ion battery use.

The is the maximum sweat equity minimal cash method

Good luck,

mike

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
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 I might be able to get my Ford Aspire back.But I need to go lithium.
 I wonder what the minimum size pack I can get by with is.  I don't have
 much money.  I'll need BMS and a charger.  Might settle for a 40 mile
 range.  But bigger is better.  I have 600 pounds of lead now that are
 gone.  The car weighed 2000 pounds and change stock.  Anybody stuck with a
 pack to get rid of?  As an alternative the Aspire with amazing performance
 might be available for 2000 dollars.  144vdc system.  Vacuum pump for the
 brakes.  Iota DC/DC. 700 amp modified Curtis 1221B It is currently in Santa
 Cruz.  Add a pack and go. Lawrence Rhodes http://www.evalbum.com/418  The
 current state is rougher but all there and in running condition.  Not an
 inch of space inside was lost in this conversion.  The Aspire has plenty of
 space for batteries and components.
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