Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[mark hanson via EV]

Yeah, that sounds like a great price!  It sounds like you don't have to do the 
annual "checkups" for battery warranty...


Have a renewable energy day,

Mark

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-Original Message-
From: Bill Collins [mailto:ph...@bill-collins.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:38 PM
To: Mark Hanson
Cc: ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: Re: Smart ED battery

Probably not, but I think I got my $4,500 worth with the used one I bought.

> On October 25, 2017 at 3:46 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Bill etc
> So is Mercedes or Smart now going to match other EVs with a 100k mile 8 year 
> battery/drive train warranty and provide a service manual with a Canbus obd2 
> reader and not require annual bogus dealer padding checkups to keep the 
> battery warranty in place?
> Have a renewable energy day
> Mark in Roanoke Va 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Bill Collins  wrote:
> > 
> > Here's what my local expert says:
> > 
> > "Go take a look at the Smart Club of America forums because this has been 
> > discussed and Mercedes Benz is not only turning off that program but they 
> > have no interest in going after the vehicles that came off lease. In fact 
> > the legal responsibility is on whoever bought the vehicle at auction they 
> > signed the paperwork and they're the ones that are on the hook for it, if 
> > it's changed hands at a couple dealerships you got nothing to worry about. 
> > I want to say yours the battery was bought out right because the guy who 
> > originally owned it lived in Sanford and that's why it's got such high 
> > mileage"
> > 
> > I will check out the forums when I have a chance.
> > 
> > No, it does not have a way to shut it off remotely. I suppose they could 
> > try to keep the car if I took it in for service, but I don't think they 
> > would have any legal grounds, since I have no contract with them.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Bill
> >> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and 
> >> force the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery 
> >> payments. How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
> >> Best regards
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Bill Collins via EV]

Probably not, but I think I got my $4,500 worth with the used one I bought.

> On October 25, 2017 at 3:46 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Bill etc
> So is Mercedes or Smart now going to match other EVs with a 100k mile 8 year 
> battery/drive train warranty and provide a service manual with a Canbus obd2 
> reader and not require annual bogus dealer padding checkups to keep the 
> battery warranty in place?
> Have a renewable energy day
> Mark in Roanoke Va 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Bill Collins  wrote:
> > 
> > Here's what my local expert says:
> > 
> > "Go take a look at the Smart Club of America forums because this has been 
> > discussed and Mercedes Benz is not only turning off that program but they 
> > have no interest in going after the vehicles that came off lease. In fact 
> > the legal responsibility is on whoever bought the vehicle at auction they 
> > signed the paperwork and they're the ones that are on the hook for it, if 
> > it's changed hands at a couple dealerships you got nothing to worry about. 
> > I want to say yours the battery was bought out right because the guy who 
> > originally owned it lived in Sanford and that's why it's got such high 
> > mileage"
> > 
> > I will check out the forums when I have a chance.
> > 
> > No, it does not have a way to shut it off remotely. I suppose they could 
> > try to keep the car if I took it in for service, but I don't think they 
> > would have any legal grounds, since I have no contract with them.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi Bill
> >> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and 
> >> force the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery 
> >> payments. How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
> >> Best regards
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Hi Bill etc
So is Mercedes or Smart now going to match other EVs with a 100k mile 8 year 
battery/drive train warranty and provide a service manual with a Canbus obd2 
reader and not require annual bogus dealer padding checkups to keep the battery 
warranty in place?
Have a renewable energy day
Mark in Roanoke Va 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Bill Collins  wrote:
> 
> Here's what my local expert says:
> 
> "Go take a look at the Smart Club of America forums because this has been 
> discussed and Mercedes Benz is not only turning off that program but they 
> have no interest in going after the vehicles that came off lease. In fact the 
> legal responsibility is on whoever bought the vehicle at auction they signed 
> the paperwork and they're the ones that are on the hook for it, if it's 
> changed hands at a couple dealerships you got nothing to worry about. I want 
> to say yours the battery was bought out right because the guy who originally 
> owned it lived in Sanford and that's why it's got such high mileage"
> 
> I will check out the forums when I have a chance.
> 
> No, it does not have a way to shut it off remotely. I suppose they could try 
> to keep the car if I took it in for service, but I don't think they would 
> have any legal grounds, since I have no contract with them.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Bill
>> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and 
>> force the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery 
>> payments. How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Bill Collins via EV]

Here's what my local expert says:

"Go take a look at the Smart Club of America forums because this has been 
discussed and Mercedes Benz is not only turning off that program but they have 
no interest in going after the vehicles that came off lease. In fact the legal 
responsibility is on whoever bought the vehicle at auction they signed the 
paperwork and they're the ones that are on the hook for it, if it's changed 
hands at a couple dealerships you got nothing to worry about. I want to say 
yours the battery was bought out right because the guy who originally owned it 
lived in Sanford and that's why it's got such high mileage"

I will check out the forums when I have a chance.

No, it does not have a way to shut it off remotely. I suppose they could try to 
keep the car if I took it in for service, but I don't think they would have any 
legal grounds, since I have no contract with them.

Bill



> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Bill
> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and force 
> the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery payments. 
> How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
> Best regards
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Robert Bruninga via EV]

Does it have ONSTAR or other on-line presence?  If it was a Tesla, they
could just turn it off remotely ;-)

Bob

-Original Message-
From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Collins via
EV
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 5:06 PM
To: Mark Hanson
Cc: Bill Collins; ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

I just bought the car like any other used car. So, either the previous
owner bought the battery, they changed their policy, or Smart and I are
going to find ourselves in an odd legal situation since I have no contract
with them.

I will contact a friend who seems to know everything about the Smart ED
and see if he has more info.

Bill
> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bill
> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and
force the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery
payments. How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
> Best regards
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Bill Woodcock via EV]

>> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and 
>> force the new owner to either pay an additional $5k

You guys are thinking about these like capital assets, rather than consumables.

If someone asks you for $5k to fix your Smart, you get another newer Smart for 
$4500, and part out the old one.  Smarts are _great_, and I love mine, but it 
started to give me any sort of trouble, there’s no way I’d let it force me into 
making _maintenance_ payments, any more than I’d buy a maintenance contract or 
pay for repairs on a toaster.

-Bill




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Re: [EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Bill Collins via EV]

I just bought the car like any other used car. So, either the previous owner 
bought the battery, they changed their policy, or Smart and I are going to find 
ourselves in an odd legal situation since I have no contract with them.

I will contact a friend who seems to know everything about the Smart ED and see 
if he has more info.

Bill
> On October 24, 2017 at 4:52 PM Mark Hanson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Bill
> When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and force 
> the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery payments. 
> How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
> Best regards
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[EVDL] Smart ED battery

[Mark Hanson via EV]

Hi Bill
When I called smart 2 years ago they said that they track used cars and force 
the new owner to either pay an additional $5k or about $99 battery payments. 
How did you get around that?  Did they change their policy?
Best regards

Sent from my iPhone
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