Re: [EVDL] early leaf mile years expectancy

2020-01-11 Thread Paul Compton via EV 
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/environment/2017/05/19/no-return-to-diesel-for-all-ev-taxi-firm-with-dozen-leafs-on-its-books


On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 19:18, Bob Bath via EV  wrote:

> Loved your post, but there are only 12 bars on a LEAF, not 13. 
> I lost my first, and so far, only bar on my 2013 the first year. That was
> charging to 80%, except for an occasional equalizing 100% each month. 40k
> miles now.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bob Bath
>
> Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o.
> vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering—
> not cluelessness.
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> > After three Leafs I have some experience. Our first Leaf was a 2012
> Lease. By 39k miles and end of lease It could barely do 50 miles. We did
> not buy that can.
> >
> > We did however find a 2013 with 2,400 miles on the odometer for $14k.
> Nissan allowed us to pay off the car with a no interest loan. We are still
> driving that car. The guessometer is actually very accurate in predicting
> actual range. Back in 2015 we would see as much as 131 miles of range. Now
> in winter we are seeing mid 80's. Still getting 13 bars. The car has 55k on
> the clock. It has been from San Francisco to San Diego three times. First
> time it took 20 hours to LA. Lots of fast charger mistakes. No problems yet
> other than reduced range. We drive using the two ball method. During warm
> months we still see one mile of range per percent of charge. But it is hard
> to keep it up when driving into the wind.
> >
> > Our third Leaf was a 2016 30 kw. Total expenditure $13,550. It is so
> much more useful that my wife Bogart's it and has run up the odometer to
> over 50 k miles even though that car was bought new a year later. It will
> make the 90 mile journey to Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto, Santa Rosa and a
> little more to Salinas sometimes. This car still shows 114 to 130 miles of
> range on a full charge. It will make it to LA in 11 hours. Stops of
> Salinas, Camp Roberts, San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara. So the bigger the
> battery the better. This car still has the original tires. If you drive
> normally you will not see these numbers on any Leaf. However I am certain
> the 40 and 60 kw Leafs will have much better range and battery life. I
> would not buy a 2011 or 2012 Leaf unless the battery was replaced or I got
> it nearly free. Looking forward I see my first broken part being the axel
> boots. Anybody think Armourall will extend their life? Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] early leaf  mile years expectancy

2020-01-11 Thread Bob Bath via EV 
Loved your post, but there are only 12 bars on a LEAF, not 13. 
I lost my first, and so far, only bar on my 2013 the first year. That was 
charging to 80%, except for an occasional equalizing 100% each month. 40k miles 
now. 

Sincerely, 
Bob Bath

Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 54 y.o. 
vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not 
cluelessness. 


> On Jan 11, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV  wrote:
> 
> After three Leafs I have some experience. Our first Leaf was a 2012 Lease. By 
> 39k miles and end of lease It could barely do 50 miles. We did not buy that 
> can. 
> 
> We did however find a 2013 with 2,400 miles on the odometer for $14k. Nissan 
> allowed us to pay off the car with a no interest loan. We are still driving 
> that car. The guessometer is actually very accurate in predicting actual 
> range. Back in 2015 we would see as much as 131 miles of range. Now in winter 
> we are seeing mid 80's. Still getting 13 bars. The car has 55k on the clock. 
> It has been from San Francisco to San Diego three times. First time it took 
> 20 hours to LA. Lots of fast charger mistakes. No problems yet other than 
> reduced range. We drive using the two ball method. During warm months we 
> still see one mile of range per percent of charge. But it is hard to keep it 
> up when driving into the wind. 
> 
> Our third Leaf was a 2016 30 kw. Total expenditure $13,550. It is so much 
> more useful that my wife Bogart's it and has run up the odometer to over 50 k 
> miles even though that car was bought new a year later. It will make the 90 
> mile journey to Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto, Santa Rosa and a little more 
> to Salinas sometimes. This car still shows 114 to 130 miles of range on a 
> full charge. It will make it to LA in 11 hours. Stops of Salinas, Camp 
> Roberts, San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara. So the bigger the battery the 
> better. This car still has the original tires. If you drive normally you will 
> not see these numbers on any Leaf. However I am certain the 40 and 60 kw 
> Leafs will have much better range and battery life. I would not buy a 2011 or 
> 2012 Leaf unless the battery was replaced or I got it nearly free. Looking 
> forward I see my first broken part being the axel boots. Anybody think 
> Armourall will extend their life? Lawrence Rhodes  
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Re: [EVDL] early leaf  mile years expectancy

2020-01-11 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
 After three Leafs I have some experience. Our first Leaf was a 2012 Lease. By 
39k miles and end of lease It could barely do 50 miles. We did not buy that 
can. 

We did however find a 2013 with 2,400 miles on the odometer for $14k. Nissan 
allowed us to pay off the car with a no interest loan. We are still driving 
that car. The guessometer is actually very accurate in predicting actual range. 
Back in 2015 we would see as much as 131 miles of range. Now in winter we are 
seeing mid 80's. Still getting 13 bars. The car has 55k on the clock. It has 
been from San Francisco to San Diego three times. First time it took 20 hours 
to LA. Lots of fast charger mistakes. No problems yet other than reduced range. 
We drive using the two ball method. During warm months we still see one mile of 
range per percent of charge. But it is hard to keep it up when driving into the 
wind. 

Our third Leaf was a 2016 30 kw. Total expenditure $13,550. It is so much more 
useful that my wife Bogart's it and has run up the odometer to over 50 k miles 
even though that car was bought new a year later. It will make the 90 mile 
journey to Sacramento, Stockton, Modesto, Santa Rosa and a little more to 
Salinas sometimes. This car still shows 114 to 130 miles of range on a full 
charge. It will make it to LA in 11 hours. Stops of Salinas, Camp Roberts, San 
Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara. So the bigger the battery the better. This car 
still has the original tires. If you drive normally you will not see these 
numbers on any Leaf. However I am certain the 40 and 60 kw Leafs will have much 
better range and battery life. I would not buy a 2011 or 2012 Leaf unless the 
battery was replaced or I got it nearly free. Looking forward I see my first 
broken part being the axel boots. Anybody think Armourall will extend their 
life? Lawrence Rhodes  
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[EVDL] early leaf mile years expectancy

2020-01-09 Thread evtlfp20 via EV 
 Is there info some where stating the amount of years or milage of early 
leafs before they are junked or stop getting tags renewed?


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