Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
-charged for a LEAF oil change- I remember that there were about three instances of EVs being charged by dealerships for an oil change they did not and could not have received. But I only found one instance in the evdl nabble archives. All drivers (EV, pih or ice should check the dealership's

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Jamie K via EV
Haven't been charged for a LEAF oil change, LOL. They do charge a little for replacing brake fluid every few years, and a yearly battery check after the first three years. That's about it other than tires. There have only been one or two software updates since we got our LEAF. Like most

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
disabling the car :) Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 22-May-17 10:40:47 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 cha

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 05/22/2017 12:09 PM, Jamie K via EV wrote: True for 2011/12 LEAF models. However the LEAF's guess-o-meter was improved later models. Even better, a useful battery-percentage-remaining display option was added. A good point! Also points out the Leaf weakness of not having OTA software

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Jamie K via EV
True for 2011/12 LEAF models. However the LEAF's guess-o-meter was improved later models. Even better, a useful battery-percentage-remaining display option was added. On 5/22/17 10:10 AM, Willie via EV wrote: Bruce mentioned "guessometer" in a Tesla context. It is my understanding that

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
> On May 22, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Willie via EV wrote: > > Bruce mentioned "guessometer" in a Tesla context. It is my understanding > that Tesla arrives at an estimated range by applying a constant, linear scale > factor to the estimated remaining energy. For normal use,

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 05/22/2017 07:47 AM, paul dove via EV wrote: Still sounds like a hold over from lead batteries. I can't imagine the voltage of an unbalanced pack being more than 10 volts loss in voltage. This would not be noticeable. I agree, it seems inappropriate to talk about "stiffness" from

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Still sounds like a hold over from lead batteries. I can't imagine the voltage of an unbalanced pack being more than 10 volts loss in voltage. This would not be noticeable. Does anyone have real data? Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2017, at 1:27 AM, brucedp5 via EV

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread paul dove via EV
t;> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of paul dove via >> EV >> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:14 AM >> To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a le

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-22 Thread brucedp5 via EV
-confused "balanced" and "stiffened"? I don't know as I did not read the Tesla driver's experience as there was no link- Instead of stiff, think the experience of a perky, or nicely performing pack which may equate to a fully charged and balanced pack. The [dated] mid 2015 Tesla experience was

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread Larry Gales via EV
ent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:14 AM > To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 > charger > > I don't know what stiffen the pack means. Sounds made up. > > I did watch my car charge on a chademo charger though. I h

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread paul dove via EV
It is a Mitsubishi i-MiEV. I can't imagine a cell approaching 4.12 after 30% charge. From: Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
lance (24 hours each day). Hope this clarifies, Cor. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:14 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a leve

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread brucedp5 via EV
-I don't know what stiffen the pack means- Perhaps it is an old archaic term bantered about by nedra.com e-racers or eaa folk. One e-racer on the diy forum sez http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/ev-racing-battery-pack-options-78343.html -One pack will be stiffer with less sag-

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
the cell at or below the High voltage cutoff. Hope this clarifies, Cor. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of paul dove via EV Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:14 AM To: brucedp5; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread paul dove via EV
I don't know what stiffen the pack means. Sounds made up. I did watch my car charge on a chademo charger though. I had 15 miles range showing when it started. It said 27 minutes to charge. It started at 100 amps. After about 8 minutes I was up to a 60% charge and it was charging at 48 amps. It

Re: [EVDL] @50kW: Chevy Bolt charge times with a level 3 charger

2017-05-21 Thread brucedp5 via EV
I updated my post to include l2 recharge detail. Please re-read http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Chevy-Bolt-charge-times-with-a-level-3-charger-tp4686787p4686793.html For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- View this