Re: [EVDL] Can a DC fast charging option be added to a Chevy Bolt ?

[Willie via EV]

On 8/7/20 10:17 AM, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:

Not without a LOT of work.
You'd need to replace the input port, add the high voltage cabling, the 
contactors, etc. and then replace the computer to allow the port to work, 
probably have to replace the wiring harness to get the extra canbus 
connector(s) (or splice them in)


I would not argue that it is practical to upgrade.  But, there is a good 
chance that much of the needed stuff is in place.  Auto makers may find 
it cheaper to put un needed stuff in each car than to leave it out.



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Re: [EVDL] Can a DC fast charging option be added to a Chevy Bolt ?

[Peter VanDerWal via EV]

Not without a LOT of work.  
You'd need to replace the input port, add the high voltage cabling, the 
contactors, etc. and then replace the computer to allow the port to work, 
probably have to replace the wiring harness to get the extra canbus 
connector(s) (or splice them in)

By the way, DC fast charging is listed as an option to the LT, pretty sure the 
dealers are lying to you.  Probably trying to get you to buy a car off the lot.

-Pete 

August 3, 2020 12:25 PM, "Steves via EV"  wrote:

> Oh and I’m not so sure fast charge is worth it. It isnt fast if you are more 
> than 2/3 full and I’ve
> found it to be really expensive. I’ve had it quit during a charge and have to 
> start again but there
> is a ‘start up’ charge each time you plug in. I drove ours to NJ from VA and 
> when they had free
> charging at the Rt 95 rest stops it was nice, but now they charge (a lot). 
> 
> Things to keep in mind...
> 
> But we love the car!
> 
> -Steve
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Steves  wrote:
>> 
>> Our 2019 is a base model LT with the only options being fast charge, comfort 
>> package, driver
>> confidence package, and some stupid little stuff (like wheel locks!). It was 
>> a car on the lot with
>> that stuff.
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks
>>> How hard is it to add a fast charging option to a Chevy Bolt that doesn’t 
>>> have one? It looks like
>>> the base 2020 model doesn’t have and from googling around appears that you 
>>> have to buy the Premier
>>> version to get it (or at least that’s what the dealers want you to think). 
>>> They’re offering $8.5k
>>> Covid discount now.
>>> Best regards
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Can a DC fast charging option be added to a Chevy Bolt ?

[Haudy Kazemi via EV]

Fixed fees on charging station sessions discourage the use of stations when
only a small amount of energy is needed. These fees encourage long sessions.

Per minute rates discourage EVs from charging at the station when they
cannot charge at the maximum rate the station is capable of. This
especially affects vehicles with lower usable capacity batteries that
cannot absorb charge quickly, and any EV that is nearing full capacity. Per
minute rates may discourage parking after charging ends.

High per kWh rates discourage the use of stations to charge beyond the
point where just enough energy has been added as needed to get to a
destination with less expensive rates.

I think Tesla's approach to rates is mostly reasonable. Per kWh where
allowed and in relation to local energt prices. Per time, where per kWh is
not allowed, tiered into power levels. Now if only they would also let
customers select the max charge rate while supercharging...



On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 14:25 Steves via EV  wrote:

> Oh and I’m not so sure fast charge is worth it. It isnt fast if you are
> more than 2/3 full and I’ve found it to be really expensive. I’ve had it
> quit during a charge and have to start again but there is a ‘start up’
> charge each time you plug in. I drove ours to NJ from VA and when they had
> free charging at the Rt 95 rest stops it was nice, but now they charge (a
> lot).
>
> Things to keep in mind...
>
> But we love the car!
>
> -Steve
>
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Steves  wrote:
> >
> > Our 2019 is a base model LT with the only options being fast charge,
> comfort package, driver confidence package, and some stupid little stuff
> (like wheel locks!). It was a car on the lot with that stuff.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> >> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Mark Hanson via EV 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi folks
> >> How hard is it to add a fast charging option to a Chevy Bolt that
> doesn’t have one?  It looks like the base 2020 model doesn’t have and from
> googling around appears that you have to buy the Premier version to get it
> (or at least that’s what the dealers want you to think).  They’re offering
> $8.5k Covid discount now.
> >> Best regards
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Can a DC fast charging option be added to a Chevy Bolt ?

[Steves via EV]

Oh and I’m not so sure fast charge is worth it. It isnt fast if you are more 
than 2/3 full and I’ve found it to be really expensive. I’ve had it quit during 
a charge and have to start again but there is a ‘start up’ charge each time you 
plug in. I drove ours to NJ from VA and when they had free charging at the Rt 
95 rest stops it was nice, but now they charge (a lot). 

Things to keep in mind...

But we love the car!

-Steve

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Steves  wrote:
> 
> Our 2019 is a base model LT with the only options being fast charge, comfort 
> package, driver confidence package, and some stupid little stuff (like wheel 
> locks!). It was a car on the lot with that stuff. 
> 
> -Steve
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks
>> How hard is it to add a fast charging option to a Chevy Bolt that doesn’t 
>> have one?  It looks like the base 2020 model doesn’t have and from googling 
>> around appears that you have to buy the Premier version to get it (or at 
>> least that’s what the dealers want you to think).  They’re offering $8.5k 
>> Covid discount now. 
>> Best regards
>> Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [EVDL] Can a DC fast charging option be added to a Chevy Bolt ?

[Steves via EV]

Our 2019 is a base model LT with the only options being fast charge, comfort 
package, driver confidence package, and some stupid little stuff (like wheel 
locks!). It was a car on the lot with that stuff. 

-Steve

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Mark Hanson via EV  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> How hard is it to add a fast charging option to a Chevy Bolt that doesn’t 
> have one?  It looks like the base 2020 model doesn’t have and from googling 
> around appears that you have to buy the Premier version to get it (or at 
> least that’s what the dealers want you to think).  They’re offering $8.5k 
> Covid discount now. 
> Best regards
> Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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