Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-14 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
spaces, it makes sense >to >>> force everyone >>> to switch during lunch time (for example max 4 hours charging). >>> >>> Many EVs already announce how long charging is going to take, so it >>> should be no surprise how long one can leave the car b

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-14 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
with high contention for too few spaces, it makes sense >to >>> force everyone >>> to switch during lunch time (for example max 4 hours charging). >>> >>> Many EVs already announce how long charging is going to take, so it >>> should be >>>

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-14 Thread Cal Frye via EV
The color code on the charger in the CWRU garage is visible and clear, although a bit different. Green - disconnected/available for charge Blue - charging Yellow - connected, but done charging. And I agree, several 120V outlets would help greatly, but there don't seem to be any installed! Cal

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-14 Thread Bill Dube via EV
riendly if the charging station sends you a txt when charging ends and the grace time starts. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:40 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-14 Thread paul dove via EV
ser friendly if the charging station sends you a txt > when charging ends > and the grace time starts. > > -Original Message----- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL > Administrator via EV > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:40 PM > To: E

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
I am thinking we are talking about malls and other public charging stations and that there would be a grace period after charging completes. Businesses that supply EV charging (I had such for a few years) can set their own rules. Regards, Lawrence Harris lhar...@haritech.com > On Dec 13,

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Dec 2017 at 13:55, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Anybody parked in a "green light" spot is suceptible to ticketing and > towing. I don't think that insisting people take time out from work to move their cars when charged, subject to their cars being ticketed or towed, is the way to

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
starts. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:40 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: EVDL Administrator Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces On 13 Dec 2017 at 13:08, Lawrence Harris

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Dec 2017 at 13:08, Lawrence Harris via EV wrote: > I would love to see a big light on the top of the charge head that goes green > while charging, amber when the charger ramps down to the end of charge and red > when done. Outstanding idea, but I'd recomment the exact opposite of the

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
rg] On Behalf Of Lawrence Harris via > EV > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:43 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: Lawrence Harris > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces > > It works both ways too. I often see EV’s or plug in hybrids parked in

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Discussion List Cc: Lawrence Harris Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces It works both ways too. I often see EV’s or plug in hybrids parked in the EV spot with either the charger not plugged or the charger at end of cycle. As was noted it’s an EV charging spot, not an EV parking spot

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Lawrence Harris via EV
It works both ways too. I often see EV’s or plug in hybrids parked in the EV spot with either the charger not plugged or the charger at end of cycle. As was noted it’s an EV charging spot, not an EV parking spot. I often don’t bother with the EV spot because I don’t need the charge. Regards,

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://thenewswheel.com/does-putting-a-potato-in-a-cars-tailpipe-actually-cause-damage/ ... stuffing party horns in a car’s tailpipe is a lot funnier ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4VLl-qghAY No one should cause harm to the ice offender or their property. Getting everyone to understand,

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Dan Baker via EV
ge -- > From: "Bill Dube via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: "Bill Dube" <billd...@killacycle.com> > Sent: 13-Dec-17 11:47:51 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces > > Maybe someone will come up wit

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
How about a sticker for the gas cap? -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Dube via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Bill Dube" <billd...@killacycle.com> Sent: 13-Dec-17 11:47:51 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking sp

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Maybe someone will come up with a realistic, elaborately folded, paper origami "Denver boot" as a humorous reminder not to park where you are not supposed to. An origami Denver boot might get their attention, or might not, but it certainly wouldn't make someone too angry, at least someone

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-13 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
I just let the police deal with it.  If possible nose in somewhere and plug in.  So far hasn't been a problem.  I guess I've been lucky or growing  conscience awareness of drivers is catching on.  Marking's and signs help.  Lawrence Rhodes -- next part -- An HTML

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
They were put at the most convenient spots because we wanted those who might become early adopters and those that create emissions to have an incentive for doing so. Those that put them in got (and still get) incentives, too. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Jorg Brown via

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Jorg Brown via EV
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mark Abramowitz wrote: > They were put at the most convenient spots because we wanted those who > might become early adopters and those that create emissions to have an > incentive for doing so. > Yeah, I know; I remember those days and

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Cal Frye via EV wrote: I've thought of getting a J1773 extension cable, bright orange and marked "High Voltage" to drape across the intervening cars between me and the charger. See who's brave enough to move that puppy! I did not get keys when I bought my ComutaVan (rescued it from a

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Jorg Brown via EV
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > Yep, the first impulse is to be reactive. Unless you have the force to > win, that usually results in an escalation or divisiveness. I read a > political advice comment by someone who essentially recommended: > > -

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Cal Frye via EV
I've thought of getting a J1773 extension cable, bright orange and marked "High Voltage" to drape across the intervening cars between me and the charger. See who's brave enough to move that puppy! Cal Dan Baker via EV December 12, 2017 at 10:06 AM ... I have noticed

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Cal Frye via EV
Don't wanna brag, but my employer does not charge for charging... at least not yet. I do appreciate those chargers in Kent, one way from my home in Oberlin to Kent just about drains the Leaf entirely. Cal Rod Hower via EV December 11, 2017 at 6:31 PM There are 4

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Here's the link: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://evnut.com/docs/flyers/ev_parking_only.doc I'm told several versions were made. The maintainer of the site where this is housed (EVnut.com), and the author of this one suggested a little editing - “This vehicle” would become “your

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Yes, a bit on the strong side, though not as strong as I've seen. And there's always "May the fleas of a thousand camels". Personally, I like the gentler and funny notices. I suspect there's even a regional element to what will be more effective. But now you've got several to work with.

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread robert winfield via EV
we would, with great happiness and alacrity, inform the parking police of illegally parked ICE vehicles in extremely clearly marked spaces, and they would get a parking ticket (we had 8 charging spots for around 80-100 EV's). the ticket could not be ignored as it was a -->federal<-- ticket and

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Thanks Mark! A bit more aggressive than thought, more like I was originally suggesting? Won't be able to cite any laws, don't think we have any yet, big plus for California to be that far ahead. I found a site dated back to 2012 that has a link to more gentle notices.

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Is fuel cost the reason you bought a Volt? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Rod Hower via EV wrote: > > There are 4 parking spots for EV's in the deck at downtown Kent. Work pays > for me to park in the deck but the Chargepoint chargers cost 35 cents/kWhr

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-11 Thread Willie via EV
On 12/11/2017 05:31 PM, Rod Hower via EV wrote: It's cheaper just to use gas in the Volt, so I don't charge there.  It's 42 miles round trip to work and in the summer I do EV only, but in the winter I have to use about 10 miles gas on cold days.  It would be nice if they charged a reasonable

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-11 Thread Rod Hower via EV
There are 4 parking spots for EV's in the deck at downtown Kent.  Work pays for me to park in the deck but the Chargepoint chargers cost 35 cents/kWhr (and that's the discounted rate for people that have deck parking, otherwise it's 54 cents/kWhr).  It's cheaper just to use gas in the Volt, so

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-11 Thread Cal Frye via EV
There is a bit of contention for spaces where I work. In my assigned garage, there is one L2 charging station, with one space designated for EVs. A week or so ago, the designated spot was occupied by a Volt that seemed to have been abandoned - it was parked in the space for four days straight,

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
;vmd...@gmail.com> Sent: 08-Dec-17 4:27:00 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces Hey everyone thanks for the response so far. I agree now, better to try a more friendly method then resort to push & threaten. So frustrating though, easy to get caught up. Would love to see

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-08 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Hey everyone thanks for the response so far. I agree now, better to try a more friendly method then resort to push & threaten. So frustrating though, easy to get caught up. Would love to see some of those printed cards/flyers Mark! Cheers Dan On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Lee Hart via EV

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-07 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: So maybe I'd try a bit of gentle humor. I'd park my EV behind an ICEd spot. I'd have someone take a picture of me holding the charging cable that I'd pulled out past the ICEV toward my EV - but darn it, it just won't quite reach. I'd make a windshield for the

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-07 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Hilarious! More seriously, several years ago some folks on the RAV4-EV list developed a card or flyer to place on offending vehicles. If I get some time, I'll try to dig it up. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:42 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > >> On

Re: [EVDL] Combating ICED EV parking spaces

2017-12-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Dec 2017 at 14:51, Dan Baker via EV wrote: > Probably a little too drastic? Yeah, I'd say so. Cynic that I am, I doubt that anything is going to work. However I see no harm in starting by assuming that most of the ICEV drivers, like the one you met, don't realize that anyone around