Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-07-20 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
alf Of Mike Scott via EV Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:56 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable This caught my eye: "Ronald Reagan moves into the White House and immediately has th

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-07-20 Thread Mike Scott via EV
This caught my eye: "Ronald Reagan moves into the White House and immediately has the Carter PV panels ripped off its roof)." Jimmie Carter installed 32 thermal panels that provided hot water for the cafeteria, not electricity. Also, various accounts place the removal in 1986 before required

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-28 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Paul Dove via EV wrote: Many researchers have been attempting this. MIT claims 100% increase in capacity. It might help to put this in the perspective of research scientists. They look at some pair of reactants that look promising for a battery. They can calculate the voltage that would be

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-28 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Many researchers have been attempting this. MIT claims 100% increase in capacity. http://news.mit.edu/2017/toward-solid-lithium-batteries-0202 Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > > The article was about battery researcher John

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-28 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
Hi Al, I appreciate you replying. I read a long time ago that the maximum potential for Lithium Ion batteries was between 1500 and 3000 whr/kg. If "3 times the energy density" of this new battery is based on 150 whr/kg, then they are up in the 450 whr/kg area. Goodenough and Braga are

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-27 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
The article was about battery researcher John Goodenough. What was, in particular, causing my negative disposition was that the article stated huge improvements, all simultaneously, of nearly every aspect of battery performance. That is just ridiculous, it is hard enough to improve just

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-27 Thread paul dove via EV
The article referenced by the title of this thread Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: > > >>It will be very easy, as he stated, to find info about Mr. Goodenough.<< > > Totally agree, but what article(s) was Alan reading that

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-27 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
>>It will be very easy, as he stated, to find info about Mr. Goodenough.<< Totally agree, but what article(s) was Alan reading that caused his disposition to be negative? I was curious to try to understand where he was coming from with respect to what he was reading. On 5/26/17, 7:03 PM,

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-27 Thread paul dove via EV
While these things have occurred in the past. I believe the most important factor is the source of the claim. Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: >>> what would [be Goodenough's] motivation to make

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-26 Thread Michael Ross via EV
It will be very easy, as he stated, to find info about Mr. Goodenough. On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: > Alan, > > What article are you referencing? > > I think I would rephrase your second sentence and make it into the form of > a question: "Is

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: what would [be Goodenough's] motivation to make an outrageous or bogus claim. It is not like he is shopping his invention to venture capitalist. I doubt that he's doing anything like that. But all kinds of bad things can nuke a promising product between the

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-26 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
Alan, What article are you referencing? I think I would rephrase your second sentence and make it into the form of a question: "Is this another one?" With a question, it opens up avenues to search on the inventor, his or her reputation, and what needs to be solved to bring it to market.

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 May 2017 at 23:11, Brandon Hines via EV wrote: > what would [be Goodenough's] motivation to make an outrageous or bogus > claim. It is not like he is shopping his invention to venture > capitalist. I doubt that he's doing anything like that. But all kinds of bad things can nuke a

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread Brandon Hines via EV
The difference is that this inventor is one of the few people on the planet who has a track record of creating a "battery breakthrough" that made it into production and revolutionized the world of energy storage. While the odds may still be against Goodenough's new invention, I think that he has

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
Over the years I've seen entirely too many "battery breakthroughs" announced that never got into production. This is another one. :-/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 25 May 2017 at 10:35, len moskowitz via EV wrote: > Energy density is what gives batteries its lifecycle between charges, > so a battery with a very high energy density will, for example, allow > an electric car to drive further between charges. Ignoring the twisted syntax in the sentence

Re: [EVDL] Design News: Lithium-Ion Battery Inventor Ups Ante With Advanced Solid-State Rechargeable

2017-05-25 Thread paul dove via EV
Great news but that story broke back in January. I imagine we are years away from being able to purchase them but this is a game changer for sure. From: len moskowitz via EV To: EVDL Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:35 AM Subject: [EVDL] Design