Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-06-01 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Denis Boutet via EV ev@lists.evdl.org If the population REALLY wants them to stop they will stop. And if the population doesn't want to stop, nature will stop it for them. The problems of energy use are not technical but cultural. Americans want speed, acceleration and big cars.

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-30 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
-Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ross via EV Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:51 AM To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-30 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
From: Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.org And... I think I just outed myself publicly as an official tree-hugger. MW Goddess bless you! Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic; but destroy our farms and the grass will grow in

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-30 Thread Denis Boutet via EV
, 2014 7:51 AM To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready to frack in very uncertain geology here. That is what will happen next. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Martin WINLOW

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
This thread is now totally off topic. Time to call it done, methinks. Thanks. David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
A Financial Times article a couple of weeks back was saying that $1T of recent investment in shale oil and gas extraction will never se a profit - due to too low oil and gas prices. Guess what's going to happen next? MW On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Jan Steinman via EV wrote: From: Michael

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
Do you have a URL for that article? I collect that sort of thing to show to disbelieving friends and relatives. For the doubters out there, I highly recommend the blog Our Finite Earth, which is done by a professional actuary, not some wild-eyed hair-shirt: http://ourfiniteworld.com/ Jan On

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready to frack in very uncertain geology here. That is what will happen next. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: A Financial Times article a couple of weeks back was saying that $1T of recent investment in

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
, May 28, 2014 7:51 AM To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready to frack in very uncertain geology here. That is what will happen next. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Martin WINLOW via

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Ross via EV
To: Martin WINLOW; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I live in North Carolina - they are getting ready to frack in very uncertain geology here. That is what will happen next. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Martin WINLOW via EV ev

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
://www.cvandewater.infom Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:42 PM To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I don't

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Dennis Miles via EV
From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:42 PM To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT I don't know about earthquake activity, this is very stable land, but yes my

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote: We currently have a very business pliant legislature, they are accepting allowing the exact formulations and nature of the chemicals used to be kept secret - even suggesting that revealing them would be a felony. Yes,

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 19, Issue 39 - OTT

2014-05-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, this thread is getting pretty far off topic. Let's get back to EVs, please. David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV