Re: [EVDL] Hanergy.com?solar vehicles may not happen ... (0.1% practical)

2017-05-02 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Thanks for your insights Bob but your thinking is old and your numbers are way 
off.  It is possible to buy individual cells on Ebay for very reasonable 
prices.  I can make a 375 watt panel for under 500 dollars for my small trike 
project(charges the 4kw battery in 10 or 11 hours) so charging with the solar 
roof is OK but having a 1.5kw solar panel on the roof of a car is under 2 
thousand dollars.  However you can't have a 3000 pound EV for this to work.  
Your EV must be weight appropriate.  A four passenger vehicle has to weigh a 
thousand pounds and have very good aerodynamics.  Not impossible but no one is 
manufacturing that configuration yet so the best you can do  now is to make it 
yourself unless you want to get an Elf.  Lawrence Rhodes 
http://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challenge-visits-shanghai/
 read the specifications and be amazed.





From: Robert Bruninga <bruni...@usna.edu>
To: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>; Electric Vehicle Discussion 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [EVDL] Hanergy.com?solar vehicles may not happen ... (0.1% 
practical)



For special applications.  Fine.


But I tell people the 200W of solar panels on my EV's roof are only 0.1%

cost effective!  The smaller cells cost TEN times the cost of home solar

panels per watt and my home has 100 times more surface area.  Hence 1000

times better to collect solar for my EV from my home's roof than on the

car!


Also, just 12 solar panels at home can fully charge an EV everyday forever

to the annual American daily average of 40 miles a day.  Talk about energy

independence!  And its FREE too. (after you buy the $750 worth of

panels)...


Bob
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Re: [EVDL] Hanergy.com?solar vehicles may not happen ... (0.1% practical)

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
For special applications.  Fine.

But I tell people the 200W of solar panels on my EV's roof are only 0.1%
cost effective!  The smaller cells cost TEN times the cost of home solar
panels per watt and my home has 100 times more surface area.  Hence 1000
times better to collect solar for my EV from my home's roof than on the
car!

Also, just 12 solar panels at home can fully charge an EV everyday forever
to the annual American daily average of 40 miles a day.  Talk about energy
independence!  And its FREE too. (after you buy the $750 worth of
panels)...

Bob

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You can't use standard heavy panels.  You must use cells configured
properly and self encapsulate using special plastic heat shrink and a hot
air gun. They must be integrated into the roof of the vehicle.  I've seen
it done.  This is much lighter and makes for a working solar vehicle.
Encapsulation must be done or the cells will degrade in the natural
environment.  It is also more aerodynamic to use special encapsulation. A
practical solar vehicle can be manufactured.  It's just a matter of time
before it's done. Tesla sponsors the Cruiser class at the World Solar
Challenge.  A future Tesla solar vehicle I bet is in the planning stages.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Many top Tesla people were on the Stanford
Solar Team.
http://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challe
nge-visits-shanghai/   Lawrence Rhodes
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