Re: [EVDL] e-nv300: ... tell Nissan you want e-NV200 4sale in N.America 800-647-7261 opt7

2019-05-18 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
A rep’s comment from 2014 is hardly evidence in 2019 that would make such a 
criticism fair.  

- Mark

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> On May 17, 2019, at 6:57 PM, brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
> 
> 
> % In 2014, at the Silicon Valley NDEW EVent, nissan had an e-nv200 EV on
> display
> http://brucedp14.altervista.org/eaasvr14/
> (scroll a down 1/3 of the page)
> http://brucedp14.altervista.org/eaasvr14/eaasvr14-20140920-brucedp-008-l.jpg
> 
> The nissan rep there, said nissan is not interested in selling the e-nv200
> in N. America. He didn't know their e-nv200 sells well in Europe and is for
> sale in Asia. Nor did he know that e-nv200 vans were in use as taxis in NYC
> (see below).
> 
> I liked the e-nv200, but it just barely fit my needs (to be able carry an
> e-mobility cart in the rear of a cargo trim). If nissan sold & supported the
> larger e-nv300
> https://www.google.com/search?q=nissan+nv300+electric
> that would a better fit for my needs.
> 
> But where nissan is missing a business opportunity, later other EV companies
> will step in and sell me either an e-van or e-truck that will fit my needs.
> 
> Below are links to stories showing Nisan is ok with good pr, but not with
> follow-through to sell their e-van in N.America. Nissan sells where the
> market is profitable. nissan must not think the u.s. e-van market is worth
> their effort/trouble.
> %
> 
> 
> https://www.adventure-journal.com/2018/07/theres-another-electric-camper-van-no-not-coming-united-states/
> Here’s Another Electric Camper Van That’s Not Coming to the United States
> Jul 31, 2018 - First VW teased, and now Nissan, which has announced two new
> ... The e-NV200 and NV300 made their debut last month at the Madrid Motor
> ...
> https://www.adventure-journal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/nissan-camper-vans-in-spain-photo-01-1200x675.jpg
> 
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-3-EVs-U-S-A-Can-t-Have-gt-Zoe-env200-Bluesummer-td4676605.html
> EVLN: 3 EVs U.S.A. Can’t Have> Zoe,env200,Bluesummer
> Jul 03, 2015  
> 
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Nissan-s-e-NV200-electric-vans-being-used-as-NYC-taxicabs-tp4655363.html
> EVLN: Nissan’s e-NV200 electric vans being used as NYC taxicabs
> A Nissan e-NV200 van ] If Nissan’s new electric taxicabs are to pass muster
> with the city of New York, officials will have to settle a couple of
> controversial issues first. One has to do with charging standards and
> whether the Big Apple will end up using...
> Jun 04, 2012
> 
> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-NV-200-NYC-Taxi-of-Tomorrow-Program-video-tp4661711.html
> EVLN: NV-200 NYC Taxi of Tomorrow Program (video)
> ... tested prior to its Fall 2013 launch. The NYC Taxi of Tomorrow program
> has taken a big step closer to fruition with a prototype Nissan NV-200 based
> taxi now in operation on New York City streets. The Taxi of Tomorrow program
> is NY City's attempt to re-envision the taxicab and the whole taxi...
> Mar 07, 2013
> 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg15410.html
> EVLN: Leaf& e-NV200 EV Taxis Pass The Three Million Mile Mark In UK (v)
> 23 Jan 2016  
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/nyregion/nissan-taxi-requirement-reversed.html
> It Was Billed as the ‘Taxi of Tomorrow.’ Tomorrow Didn’t Last Long
> June 12, 2018 ... “There hasn’t been a worse car for the taxi industry than
> the NV200,” he said. “It’s not easy for older people to get into.
> Mechanically it’s one of the worst made cars I’ve ever owned.” ...
> https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/13/nyregion/13taxi-02/merlin_139288551_c5edfd2a-8c2b-4ee7-88b8-7b840030f7e3-jumbo.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For EVLN EV-newswire posts use:
> http://evdl.org/archive/
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Re: [EVDL] e-nv300: ... tell Nissan you want e-NV200 4sale in N.America 800-647-7261 opt7

2019-05-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 May 2019 at 20:57, brucedp5 via EV wrote:

> The nissan rep there, said nissan is not interested in selling the e-nv200 in
> N. America.

That's not so surprising.  IMO, the brightest future of production EVs is in 
Western Europe and Asia.  

In Europe, 4 nations have already stated that they plan to reduce, restrict, 
or eliminate ICEVs in favor of EVs by 2025, 2030, or 2040.  Some have fairly 
aggressive subsidy or incentive programs.  (Certain oil-wealthy people in 
the US don't approve of our EV tax credit.  Anybody want to place a bet on 
how much longer it'll last?)

China has announced a future ICEV ban, though I don't think they've set a 
deadline; someone please correct me if that's wrong.  China is the elephant 
in the GM boardroom, an emerging vehicle market growth area for them and all 
the other major automakers.  For better or worse, unlike CARB in the 1990s, 
China's government doesn't blink.  You do it their way, or you don't do 
business in China.  

So China and part of Europe will most likely require EVs.  Last I heard, 
California might; maybe someone who's been following that can update me.  Or 
maybe congress or the EPA will smack CARB down, take away their legal right 
to require stricter emissions standards.

The automakers will build EVs for EV markets.  If we're lucky, the rest of 
us will get what's left over, unless they can sell it more profitably 
elsewhere.  

That's probably not all bad, though.  It might open the gates to serious 
competition from second- and third-tier automakers.  The fuel crunch of the 
early 1970s gave Japanese automakers and their small, high-MPG cars a solid 
foothold in the US.  This time, maybe we'll get to see what Chinese and/or 
Indian automakers can do with EVs.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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