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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Another EV1 soon to be running (Bob Rice)
2. Re: Rewinding Solenoid Coils for Different Voltages
ThanSpecified (Roland Wiench)
3. EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay) (Rick Beebe)
4. Re: Another EV1 soon to be running (Jim Husted)
5. Re: EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay) (Bob Rice)
6. Re: 3 EV's on Ebay (dave cover)
7. Re: Another EV1 soon to be running (Dan Frederiksen)
8. Re: EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay) (dave cover)
9. Li'l Harz Mountain Lead Sled ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
10. Re: Another EV1 soon to be running (Bob Rice)
11. Re: EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay) (Roland Wiench)
12. Re: Auburn Kodiak controller info (Deanne Mott)
13. Re: Another EV1 soon to be running (Dan Frederiksen)
14. Re: Paralleling BB600s (Zeke Yewdall)
15. Re: EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay) (mike young)
16. Re: Paralleling BB600s (damon henry)
17. Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some kid eat his
words. (Jim Husted)
18. Re: Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some kid eat
his words. (damon henry)
19. Re: Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some kid eat
his words. (Mark Maher)
20. Photo Album Suggestion (Jeff Shanab)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:07:56 -0500
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
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Hi Dan;
What's Denmark's laws concerning EV's. Like England? Just convert, or
build from scratch? EVery European country has different Regs? I
Think?England(UK) I think they really con't care, build or convert what you
like? WHY England is not a hotbed of EV activity with 8 bux a gal gas?
Can you just convert a Jetta in Denmark?Or a Golf or a Danish marque car?
Bob
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
you misunderstood, Mike. I didn't doubt that Jim did the modification to
the motor of course. I meant seeing it happen gives people a better feel
for what EVs are and knowledge empowers. 1? years ago I had never
imagined that an EV could be powerful. we've only had little weak ones
here in Denmark and I never questioned it. seeing the Tesla empowered
the world. others helped too of course but it was the knowledge. now
even damn Ferrari is talking electric drive. seeing is believing
Dan
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:21:46 -0700
From: "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Rewinding Solenoid Coils for Different Voltages
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Hello Martin and everybody,
One thing, that I like to add to the rewinding methods, is that if you are
either replacing the windings on any type of coils and pre-calculated the
length and size of wire and you need to purchase some magnet wire from a
motor shop, they normally coil enough wire on a small empty plastic wire
reel for you with a coil wrapping machine.
Instead of coiling the wire you want on to the reel, take your coil form in
and it is place on a coil winder, that counts the number of turns and length
of wire. The coil winder is also use for counting the number of turns and
length as it takes off the old wire.
I have done this many times, and only it only cost me the cost of the wire.
Its only takes minutes to do while you are waiting for them to do it.
You have them coil several more feet more, so you can exactly tune the coil
for the right voltage. Most of the time, the wire is random wrap instead of
layer wrap. The ohm reading on a wire in a long straight length may read
slightly different than when its place on the coil and again different when
power is apply.
Most of my own coils I make for communication work and wind my self is layer
wrap where each wire loop is place tightly next to the other. In testing if
there is a slight gap between any one wire coil, this changes the induction
of the coil.
If you random wrap several coils with the same wire, each coil may have a
different power level, this is why you have them wrap more wire then you
need and then trim the wire back until it reads the results you want.
Roland
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Subject: [EVDL] Rewinding Solenoid Coils for Different Voltages
ThanSpecified
> For Everyone's Delectation...
>
> I stumbled over this today. The subject line says it all...
>
> http://www.qsl.net/ki7cx/Coilrewind.htm
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:21:48 -0500
From: Rick Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
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Bob Rice wrote:
> .Hey Dave! the guy from DMV., Walt B. DID call me back, they want to
> LOOK att my car, cars, and possably rewrite their, State CT's, inspection
> procedure? It's only taken them 3 weaks to get back to me,but on a poz
> note!!??Home inspection? Gees! I guess I gotta fix the goddamn headlights,
> now?A Heater, too. Have just dressed warmly so far, but a defroster would be
> nice. Another Ceramic heater must die, for household use?From talking with
> CT's DMV folks They seem not adverse to EV's. But YOU haven't had the so
> good experiance?
I'm also in CT. Are there problems getting EVs inspected/registered?
There's some favor for them in Hartford as I found that there's no sales
tax on vehicles or parts until next July.
--Rick
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:59:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
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Morning EVeryone
Rather than cut and paste a bunch of clips I'm just
going to ramble about some subjects here.
First off, they contacted me, lol, well actually
George Hampstra sent them my way. In the end, I was
able to get them something that fit their budget but
EVen at that I helped to achieve that. They paid for
the motor, the shaft Eric made, and the in and out
freight, and I sponsored the work done to it.
Before you start calling me "Motor Teresa" again,
there are many reasons behind me doing it. In as much
as it was a great way to turn the next generation onto
electrics we are all I believe(at least to some
degree) self serving creatures 8^)
I got to show another example of how far these motors
can be modified and how unique they can be customized.
I hope that I've also earned some old fashioned word
of mouth in the good state of Missouri. I was able to
use them as test subjects (how much can one bitch if
they didn't pay for it right... well I guess there are
those out there that could still find a reason to
snivel, LMAO) and was able to "practice" my craft and
move it to another level. I also got to build a motor
for an EV1 and on a personal level there is huge
rewards for me in that, I mean how many out there can
say that 8^) Anyway with that said, I feel it's a win
win or at least that was my goal.
As for lights in my shop, my shop could use twice the
lighting I have now and it'd still have the lighting
of a flashlight in a cave, LMAO! It ain't all that
bad as it helps hide the dirt and mangeled motor guts
that litter it. Anyway, you all are lucky enough for
me to drag the stuff over to one of the candles and
remember to turn on the camera flash 8^P LMAO!
Right now I have a basic cheap ass camera and it takes
good pics when it wants to, lol. I take extras so I
can weed out the bad ones but still there are gaps
when I upload pics that all come out like crud. Heck,
if it weren't for Chris R I wouldn't EVen have a site
up (at least not as nice and ad free)(so I feel pretty
blessed to be able to share on the level I am able
to).
There are also lots of times where I just get busy and
forget to take any at that junction in a build. As
for filming stuff I don't even have a recorder, let
alone a "Bill Dube quality" recorder so there! 8^P
Besides it'd make for some boring ass watching...
Here's Jim doing wrap number 187... 8^o FWIW, thanks
for the field coil comments, I do wrap a mean coil 8^)
but my thumbs get a little sorer than in my younger
days 8^o
I maintain a pretty open shop so if anyone wants to
come down and run cameras you just give me a heads up.
I do have to be careful though as when I play to much
like when FT or Damon and Mike came down for a couple
days there is payback to be found in getting caught
up.
Anyway, as for the voltage I believe they'll be
running 156 volts, and I have no clue what controller.
I did go to the website and and found hints at it
maybe being solar? Also, although they "wanted 12"
and I was a tad over they actually had 13" so they
should be able to shoe horn it in 8^)
I'll give a heads up when it's alive or learn more.
Some may say that seeing is believing but I like to
think that's only true for those who don't already
believe! To coin an old phrase though, Faith without
work is dead. I guess this is why I choose to be a
do'er whenEVer possible 8^)
Cya
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:08:06 -0500
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
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Hi Rick;
ANOTHER Corrupticut guy heard from? Where ya at? Any relation to the
Beebe guyz on the RR? Just curious. In CT it isn't an issue til the damn
emmissions thing comes due. I sent in my 80 bux for renewing my tags and
they told me I was overdue on the smog check scam., I had never goten the
notice they send you, With my last car a Rabbit, my time came due and I
figgured that this will be fun; Check me out? Can you FIND any
emmissions?The guy could just say that and report it as "Clean?" Not so
simple" You don't EVen have a tailpipe" the guy sez! He DID give me a fone
no at CT Dot to call, EVentually I got an actual, living . breahting PERSON!
This was YEARS ago. Today you DON'T get a person but "Press 2 for English,
start from there, go on hold til your tag expires! But Dave Cover who has
been dealing with registering an out of state car as an EV. HE has been
dealing with this for MONTHS! I had a CT title for the Jetta and just went
skipping into the DMV in Old Saybrook, transferred the title to MY name got
plates and motored away!Of course you DON'T just get a title. God forbid! It
takes 5-6 weaks for it to go through the burocracy. WHY the hell can't they
just PRINT you a Title when yur THERE. Of course you can't SELL a car
without the godamn title! Like if you want to sell a car, say, a week later?
Back to the story; I did get a guy that set things streight, he took down
my VIN and changed it to "Electric" and that was the end of the issue. Not
so simple, nowadaze. When I renewed my tags I sent a few pix of the Jetta,
and my 80 bux, saying I wanted to "Opt Out" of the emmissions pogram. Oh,
they took my money, sent the pix back, said they were "Quite Convincing"But
they needed to inspect the car. They don't trust anyboduy, nowadaze.So I'm
waiting for THEIR move.Tag expires in DEC so the clock is ticking.
I feel that CT IS EV friendly, they just haven't swung the burocracy in
place to deal with it. Just checking on the "11" form ya fill out; they are
THINKING ahead, they have 4 choices for "Fuel" Gas, Diseasel, Propane, or,
drum roll here ........ELECTRIC! So SOMEBODY is thinking ahead . here? But
you check Electric, don't mean squat. I asked the guy the first time around
IF he could check as to how MANY electrics were out there in CT? They don't
EVen LOOK at that box he said. They go by VIN no. If the car was BORN a
Diseasel or gas that's what it IS to them til proven different.CT is still
in the early 20th century with state computers, anyhow. I was pulled over
for "Misuse of Plate" 3 weeks AFTER I had transferred the tag from a '62
Ford Falcon to my Rabbit!!I showed the cop the temp registration, it was OK.
MY turn to ask questions" Howcum you guyz arent up to DATE wuith this stuff"
Cop sez;" it takes WEEKS for this to trickle down too us"Geesh! For 80 bux
for 2 years for tags PLUS the State Gas Tax they would have cutting edge
computer gear? Maybe nowadaze they have upgraded?New Haven cops are having a
field day with that new Tag Scanner thing they just drive around checking
tags for anything from parking violations to non payment of vehicle taxes.
They get a hit, and your car's GONE! Towed away! They wonder WHY folks don't
go into New Haven? You get a parking ticket and they TOW you away, hold the
car for a cash ranson. No checks, credit cards. CASH! It has been farmed out
to private co. s who cruise the streets looking for cars!If your car isn't
broken into for loose change on the floor!
Anyhow, balls in THEIR court.
Seeya
Bob.
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From: "Rick Beebe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:21 AM
Subject: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
> Bob Rice wrote:
>> .Hey Dave! the guy from DMV., Walt B. DID call me back, they want
>> to
>> LOOK att my car, cars, and possably rewrite their, State CT's, inspection
>> procedure? It's only taken them 3 weaks to get back to me,but on a poz
>> note!!??Home inspection? Gees! I guess I gotta fix the goddamn
>> headlights,
>> now?A Heater, too. Have just dressed warmly so far, but a defroster would
>> be
>> nice. Another Ceramic heater must die, for household use?From talking
>> with
>> CT's DMV folks They seem not adverse to EV's. But YOU haven't had the so
>> good experiance?
>
> I'm also in CT. Are there problems getting EVs inspected/registered?
> There's some favor for them in Hartford as I found that there's no sales
> tax on vehicles or parts until next July.
>
> --Rick
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:13:58 -0500
From: "dave cover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] 3 EV's on Ebay
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On Dec 15, 2007 12:49 AM, Bob Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> .Hey Dave! the guy from DMV., Walt B. DID call me back, they want to
> LOOK att my car, cars, and possably rewrite their, State CT's, inspection
> procedure? It's only taken them 3 weaks to get back to me,but on a poz
> note!!??Home inspection?
>
Bob
If it's just Walt coming by, he'll inspect to make sure you don't need
to go through emissions testing, that's all. Nice guy, I'd like his
job.
The other inspection is by the men in uniform, and they will be
looking to do two things; mechanical inspection and then a run through
of the EV side. Part of the mechanical inspection is testing the
brakes, I don't know how they'd do that at your house. It would be an
improvement if they could come to your house to do the mechanical/EV
inspection.
As to the EV side, it would be great if they wanted to work with you
on that. I did a little negotiating with them over the phone, so I
might have started them rethinking their specs. They are mainly
concerned with safety, of the driver and of rescue personel that might
need to pull you from a wreck.
My fingers are crossed for you, good luck.
Dave Cover
I'm hoping to get my car ready for inspection soon, so keep me
informed of your progress.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:19:52 +0100
From: Dan Frederiksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
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well, from what I can tell the law is not specific about it. in the
letter of the law anything essentially goes that is below 3500kg and up
to 7 people. I am however not familiar with a single conversion here and
the car has to be inspected for registration like any other car but I
don't know if the inspector can deny it just because he feels like it. I
think it will pass but they are so rare that you could get an unlucky
reaction. I don't know enough about it yet
Dan
Bob Rice wrote:
> Hi Dan;
>
> What's Denmark's laws concerning EV's. Like England? Just convert, or
> build from scratch? EVery European country has different Regs? I
> Think?England(UK) I think they really con't care, build or convert what you
> like? WHY England is not a hotbed of EV activity with 8 bux a gal gas?
>
> Can you just convert a Jetta in Denmark?Or a Golf or a Danish marque car?
>
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
>
>
> you misunderstood, Mike. I didn't doubt that Jim did the modification to
> the motor of course. I meant seeing it happen gives people a better feel
> for what EVs are and knowledge empowers. 1? years ago I had never
> imagined that an EV could be powerful. we've only had little weak ones
> here in Denmark and I never questioned it. seeing the Tesla empowered
> the world. others helped too of course but it was the knowledge. now
> even damn Ferrari is talking electric drive. seeing is believing
>
> Dan
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:27:31 -0500
From: "dave cover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
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On Dec 15, 2007 10:21 AM, Rick Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm also in CT. Are there problems getting EVs inspected/registered?
> There's some favor for them in Hartford as I found that there's no sales
> tax on vehicles or parts until next July.
>
> --Rick
>
Rick
Ditto on Bob's question, where are you located? I'm west of Hartford,
Bob is south, and Storm is around the corner from me. Have you got an
EV? Are working on one? Just plannning? The local EAA chapter meets
monthly. I'm terrible with names, have you been to a meeting already?
You're more than welcome to stop by and see my "work in progress." I
just finished a "two steps forward, one step back" cycle, so I'm ready
to put a few things together again. Not a lot to do, it's just real
cold in my garage.
Dave Cover
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:47:11 +0200
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Subject: [EVDL] Li'l Harz Mountain Lead Sled
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I was walking in the snowy woods outside this little village where I've
been working at this old metals institute. The town was an old mining town,
lead and such. The last trains stopped coming out in the 50's-?60's? when the
mining was no longer profitable. Down at the very end of the tracks and
run into the metal barrier ties intended to prevent runaway locomotives [I'm
reminded of someone's story of some train crashing down a story due to
runaway-locomotive action]
was this little old yellow engine that looks like it belonged in a petting zoo,
dragging cartsful of parents and fascinated children on tracks past the
animals.
It was a yellow 'Varta' and had a 2m long, maybe 50cm wide, maybe 50cm tall bed
....apparently entirely filled with galvanick cells. The nameplate said
250V and 400A while another plate on the batterybank said 700Ah and 108V
for: drumrol......
70 crankin kW and 100kWh!!!
like finding the bones of a sabertooth cat, harder to put on the wall.
I guess they knew where to find the lead anyway. The whole counryside is
actually 'wired for power' in the sense that the lakes and streams are damned
and sluiced carefully, each lake leading to a few lower ones all to provide
power to the mines!!! These big waterwheels would hoist dirt and rocks up, and
carry the miners down in elevators...and the woods were all planted with
fast-growing pine. A friend told me about his power electronics course where
some kind of big-ass old time electric motor or maybe it was a transformer
is powered up, browning out the little town. That one's been phased out
like so much of the fun stuff.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:52:06 -0500
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
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Dan;
If you have deep pockets could ya buy a EV in, say, France, drive it back
to Denmark?IF you were patient, plugging along?Aren't there any EAA like
things on the Continent?I would thing you guyz would be light years ahead of
us, in the cheep gas USA? Denmark, yur just down the road from Norway, home
of the Smart car?You CAN drive all over the place in Europe?
Seeya
Bob "Unlucky Reaction" I like that<g>!
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From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
well, from what I can tell the law is not specific about it. in the
letter of the law anything essentially goes that is below 3500kg and up
to 7 people. I am however not familiar with a single conversion here and
the car has to be inspected for registration like any other car but I
don't know if the inspector can deny it just because he feels like it. I
think it will pass but they are so rare that you could get an unlucky
reaction. I don't know enough about it yet
Dan
Bob Rice wrote:
> Hi Dan;
>
> What's Denmark's laws concerning EV's. Like England? Just convert, or
> build from scratch? EVery European country has different Regs? I
> Think?England(UK) I think they really con't care, build or convert what
> you
> like? WHY England is not a hotbed of EV activity with 8 bux a gal gas?
>
> Can you just convert a Jetta in Denmark?Or a Golf or a Danish marque
> car?
>
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
>
>
> you misunderstood, Mike. I didn't doubt that Jim did the modification to
> the motor of course. I meant seeing it happen gives people a better feel
> for what EVs are and knowledge empowers. 1? years ago I had never
> imagined that an EV could be powerful. we've only had little weak ones
> here in Denmark and I never questioned it. seeing the Tesla empowered
> the world. others helped too of course but it was the knowledge. now
> even damn Ferrari is talking electric drive. seeing is believing
>
> Dan
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:05:05 -0700
From: "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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You may want to check out if your state has permanent license plates for
vehicles that have a certain age. There are different types for antique to
classis cars.
I did not know any thing about a permanent license plate, because when you
go to the DMV they won't mention it because they want the moola. You have
to ask them about it.
I found out about it when a old guy older then me with a older car, has
permanent license plates on it on a 1940's something.
In my state, Montana, if you have a vehicle that is 15 years or older, you
pay a one time license fee for the double amount for a permanent license
plates.
Roland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
> Hi Rick;
>
> ANOTHER Corrupticut guy heard from? Where ya at? Any relation to the
> Beebe guyz on the RR? Just curious. In CT it isn't an issue til the damn
> emmissions thing comes due. I sent in my 80 bux for renewing my tags and
> they told me I was overdue on the smog check scam., I had never goten the
> notice they send you, With my last car a Rabbit, my time came due and I
> figgured that this will be fun; Check me out? Can you FIND any
> emmissions?The guy could just say that and report it as "Clean?" Not so
> simple" You don't EVen have a tailpipe" the guy sez! He DID give me a fone
> no at CT Dot to call, EVentually I got an actual, living . breahting
> PERSON!
> This was YEARS ago. Today you DON'T get a person but "Press 2 for English,
> start from there, go on hold til your tag expires! But Dave Cover who has
> been dealing with registering an out of state car as an EV. HE has been
> dealing with this for MONTHS! I had a CT title for the Jetta and just went
> skipping into the DMV in Old Saybrook, transferred the title to MY name
> got
> plates and motored away!Of course you DON'T just get a title. God forbid!
> It
> takes 5-6 weaks for it to go through the burocracy. WHY the hell can't
> they
> just PRINT you a Title when yur THERE. Of course you can't SELL a car
> without the godamn title! Like if you want to sell a car, say, a week
> later?
>
> Back to the story; I did get a guy that set things streight, he took
> down
> my VIN and changed it to "Electric" and that was the end of the issue. Not
> so simple, nowadaze. When I renewed my tags I sent a few pix of the Jetta,
> and my 80 bux, saying I wanted to "Opt Out" of the emmissions pogram. Oh,
> they took my money, sent the pix back, said they were "Quite
> Convincing"But
> they needed to inspect the car. They don't trust anyboduy, nowadaze.So I'm
> waiting for THEIR move.Tag expires in DEC so the clock is ticking.
>
> I feel that CT IS EV friendly, they just haven't swung the burocracy
> in
> place to deal with it. Just checking on the "11" form ya fill out; they
> are
> THINKING ahead, they have 4 choices for "Fuel" Gas, Diseasel, Propane, or,
> drum roll here ........ELECTRIC! So SOMEBODY is thinking ahead . here? But
> you check Electric, don't mean squat. I asked the guy the first time
> around
> IF he could check as to how MANY electrics were out there in CT? They
> don't
> EVen LOOK at that box he said. They go by VIN no. If the car was BORN a
> Diseasel or gas that's what it IS to them til proven different.CT is still
> in the early 20th century with state computers, anyhow. I was pulled over
> for "Misuse of Plate" 3 weeks AFTER I had transferred the tag from a '62
> Ford Falcon to my Rabbit!!I showed the cop the temp registration, it was
> OK.
> MY turn to ask questions" Howcum you guyz arent up to DATE wuith this
> stuff"
> Cop sez;" it takes WEEKS for this to trickle down too us"Geesh! For 80 bux
> for 2 years for tags PLUS the State Gas Tax they would have cutting edge
> computer gear? Maybe nowadaze they have upgraded?New Haven cops are having
> a
> field day with that new Tag Scanner thing they just drive around checking
> tags for anything from parking violations to non payment of vehicle taxes.
> They get a hit, and your car's GONE! Towed away! They wonder WHY folks
> don't
> go into New Haven? You get a parking ticket and they TOW you away, hold
> the
> car for a cash ranson. No checks, credit cards. CASH! It has been farmed
> out
> to private co. s who cruise the streets looking for cars!If your car isn't
> broken into for loose change on the floor!
>
> Anyhow, balls in THEIR court.
>
> Seeya
>
> Bob.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Beebe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:21 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
>
>
> > Bob Rice wrote:
> >> .Hey Dave! the guy from DMV., Walt B. DID call me back, they want
> >> to
> >> LOOK att my car, cars, and possably rewrite their, State CT's,
> >> inspection
> >> procedure? It's only taken them 3 weaks to get back to me,but on a poz
> >> note!!??Home inspection? Gees! I guess I gotta fix the goddamn
> >> headlights,
> >> now?A Heater, too. Have just dressed warmly so far, but a defroster
> >> would
> >> be
> >> nice. Another Ceramic heater must die, for household use?From talking
> >> with
> >> CT's DMV folks They seem not adverse to EV's. But YOU haven't had the
> >> so
> >> good experiance?
> >
> > I'm also in CT. Are there problems getting EVs inspected/registered?
> > There's some favor for them in Hartford as I found that there's no sales
> > tax on vehicles or parts until next July.
> >
> > --Rick
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:10:21 -0500
From: "Deanne Mott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Auburn Kodiak controller info
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Where is there information on the Kodiak controller? I have one too,
no problems really so far, but would like to have a manual or whatever
I can get my hands on in case something does happen.
thanks - De
> Subject: [EVDL] Auburn Kodiak controller info
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:15:53 +0100
From: Dan Frederiksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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The french might be making some EVs and yes those could certainly be
approved but it's my impression they are all very boring. some oversized
overpriced low power inverter and often in a hideous mailman car. Also I
don't have a lot of money and even if I did have the money to buy a new
car I would certainly favor converting a modern porsche for the same
money. 97 Porsche Boxter can be gotten for 20k$. and that's a stereotype
killer platform.
I'm not sure if Norway has ready to wear EVs. they mess around with it a
lot because they have a lot of hydropower but has it amounted to a
reasonably priced desirable EV? don't think so
As for EVs in Europe, we have done too little. we have fairly efficient
combustion cars, there is a VW that does 33km/L (a prius is around 21)
but over the years I think the number of EVs is similar to what has been
done in california. maybe 1-2000 from all brands over 30 years of 'real'
cars. The kewet factory was nearby but that was an ugly little weak NEV
and it did us a great disservice in that people thought that's all EVs
could do.
If someone had made a series production of conversions of real cars at
that time I think it would have been much different. quite a phenomenon
actually that so many electrical engineers dropped the ball for so long.
especially considering we have 200% sales tax on combustion cars and 25%
on EVs here in Denmark.
it's similarly fascinating how governments are so clueless. they have
the money and the power to easily change the world but never do
anything. imagine if a gov started making conversions.. it's not
exactly quantum mechanics to take a nice car and put an electric drive
train in it. even profitable.
Dan
Bob Rice wrote:
> Dan;
>
> If you have deep pockets could ya buy a EV in, say, France, drive it back
> to Denmark?IF you were patient, plugging along?Aren't there any EAA like
> things on the Continent?I would thing you guyz would be light years ahead of
> us, in the cheep gas USA? Denmark, yur just down the road from Norway, home
> of the Smart car?You CAN drive all over the place in Europe?
>
> Seeya
>
> Bob "Unlucky Reaction" I like that<g>!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
>
>
> well, from what I can tell the law is not specific about it. in the
> letter of the law anything essentially goes that is below 3500kg and up
> to 7 people. I am however not familiar with a single conversion here and
> the car has to be inspected for registration like any other car but I
> don't know if the inspector can deny it just because he feels like it. I
> think it will pass but they are so rare that you could get an unlucky
> reaction. I don't know enough about it yet
>
> Dan
>
> Bob Rice wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan;
>>
>> What's Denmark's laws concerning EV's. Like England? Just convert, or
>> build from scratch? EVery European country has different Regs? I
>> Think?England(UK) I think they really con't care, build or convert what
>> you
>> like? WHY England is not a hotbed of EV activity with 8 bux a gal gas?
>>
>> Can you just convert a Jetta in Denmark?Or a Golf or a Danish marque
>> car?
>>
>> Bob
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Another EV1 soon to be running
>>
>>
>> you misunderstood, Mike. I didn't doubt that Jim did the modification to
>> the motor of course. I meant seeing it happen gives people a better feel
>> for what EVs are and knowledge empowers. 1? years ago I had never
>> imagined that an EV could be powerful. we've only had little weak ones
>> here in Denmark and I never questioned it. seeing the Tesla empowered
>> the world. others helped too of course but it was the knowledge. now
>> even damn Ferrari is talking electric drive. seeing is believing
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:33:49 -0700
From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Paralleling BB600s
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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On Dec 15, 2007 2:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you sure you wanna use NiCd for a solar installation? The cycle
> efficiency is not as good as lead-acid and they have a small but
> significant self-discharge rate.
>
> Danny
>
Speaking from experience, Lead Acid SUCK for PV systems compared to
NiCad --- if you can find NiCad without remortgaging the house.....
98% of systems use lead acid, but it's certainly not because they are
the best technical solution.
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:59:22 -0500
From: "mike young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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In NY state they do the full safety and emissions inspection on all the ice
cars once a yr and give you an emissions sticker at a cost of $21 and for my
ev's they just do a safety inspection once a yr and give me a safety
inspection sticker at a cost of $10.
Mike young
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
> Hi Rick;
>
> ANOTHER Corrupticut guy heard from? Where ya at? Any relation to the
> Beebe guyz on the RR? Just curious. In CT it isn't an issue til the damn
> emmissions thing comes due. I sent in my 80 bux for renewing my tags and
> they told me I was overdue on the smog check scam., I had never goten the
> notice they send you, With my last car a Rabbit, my time came due and I
> figgured that this will be fun; Check me out? Can you FIND any
> emmissions?The guy could just say that and report it as "Clean?" Not so
> simple" You don't EVen have a tailpipe" the guy sez! He DID give me a fone
> no at CT Dot to call, EVentually I got an actual, living . breahting
> PERSON!
> This was YEARS ago. Today you DON'T get a person but "Press 2 for English,
> start from there, go on hold til your tag expires! But Dave Cover who has
> been dealing with registering an out of state car as an EV. HE has been
> dealing with this for MONTHS! I had a CT title for the Jetta and just went
> skipping into the DMV in Old Saybrook, transferred the title to MY name
> got
> plates and motored away!Of course you DON'T just get a title. God forbid!
> It
> takes 5-6 weaks for it to go through the burocracy. WHY the hell can't
> they
> just PRINT you a Title when yur THERE. Of course you can't SELL a car
> without the godamn title! Like if you want to sell a car, say, a week
> later?
>
> Back to the story; I did get a guy that set things streight, he took
> down
> my VIN and changed it to "Electric" and that was the end of the issue. Not
> so simple, nowadaze. When I renewed my tags I sent a few pix of the Jetta,
> and my 80 bux, saying I wanted to "Opt Out" of the emmissions pogram. Oh,
> they took my money, sent the pix back, said they were "Quite
> Convincing"But
> they needed to inspect the car. They don't trust anyboduy, nowadaze.So I'm
> waiting for THEIR move.Tag expires in DEC so the clock is ticking.
>
> I feel that CT IS EV friendly, they just haven't swung the burocracy in
> place to deal with it. Just checking on the "11" form ya fill out; they
> are
> THINKING ahead, they have 4 choices for "Fuel" Gas, Diseasel, Propane, or,
> drum roll here ........ELECTRIC! So SOMEBODY is thinking ahead . here? But
> you check Electric, don't mean squat. I asked the guy the first time
> around
> IF he could check as to how MANY electrics were out there in CT? They
> don't
> EVen LOOK at that box he said. They go by VIN no. If the car was BORN a
> Diseasel or gas that's what it IS to them til proven different.CT is still
> in the early 20th century with state computers, anyhow. I was pulled over
> for "Misuse of Plate" 3 weeks AFTER I had transferred the tag from a '62
> Ford Falcon to my Rabbit!!I showed the cop the temp registration, it was
> OK.
> MY turn to ask questions" Howcum you guyz arent up to DATE wuith this
> stuff"
> Cop sez;" it takes WEEKS for this to trickle down too us"Geesh! For 80 bux
> for 2 years for tags PLUS the State Gas Tax they would have cutting edge
> computer gear? Maybe nowadaze they have upgraded?New Haven cops are having
> a
> field day with that new Tag Scanner thing they just drive around checking
> tags for anything from parking violations to non payment of vehicle taxes.
> They get a hit, and your car's GONE! Towed away! They wonder WHY folks
> don't
> go into New Haven? You get a parking ticket and they TOW you away, hold
> the
> car for a cash ranson. No checks, credit cards. CASH! It has been farmed
> out
> to private co. s who cruise the streets looking for cars!If your car isn't
> broken into for loose change on the floor!
>
> Anyhow, balls in THEIR court.
>
> Seeya
>
> Bob.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Beebe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:21 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] EV inspection in CT (was Re: 3 EV's on Ebay)
>
>
>> Bob Rice wrote:
>>> .Hey Dave! the guy from DMV., Walt B. DID call me back, they want
>>> to
>>> LOOK att my car, cars, and possably rewrite their, State CT's,
>>> inspection
>>> procedure? It's only taken them 3 weaks to get back to me,but on a poz
>>> note!!??Home inspection? Gees! I guess I gotta fix the goddamn
>>> headlights,
>>> now?A Heater, too. Have just dressed warmly so far, but a defroster
>>> would
>>> be
>>> nice. Another Ceramic heater must die, for household use?From talking
>>> with
>>> CT's DMV folks They seem not adverse to EV's. But YOU haven't had the so
>>> good experiance?
>>
>> I'm also in CT. Are there problems getting EVs inspected/registered?
>> There's some favor for them in Hartford as I found that there's no sales
>> tax on vehicles or parts until next July.
>>
>> --Rick
>>
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:41:29 +0000
From: damon henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Paralleling BB600s
To: EV List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Hi Pete,
I have paralleled NiCad cells for both charge and discharge in the past on my
motorcycle. I did not notice any ill effects, but I did not pay close
attention because they were free cells of unknown quality and the solution was
temporary. Nothing catastrophic happened, but it may not be the best idea in
the long run. On my truck I plan on running two 80 volt strings of BB600's in
parallel on discharge, but charge them seperately. Unfortunately I have not
actually done it yet, so I don't have any practical experience. IIRC Chris Z
is using 3 seperate strings of BB600s on his Electrak paralleled, and I think
he may be using solar charging.
damon
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:51:27 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
> Subject: [EVDL] Paralleling BB600s
>
> Question for those folks who are running parallel BB600s.
>
> Is anyone running parallel strings or do you have to parallel them on a
> cell by cell basis.
>
> I'm nearing complition on my EV workshop and I'm going to run it on solar
> power. It would be easiest if I can just parellel my 24V batteries. If I
> have to go cell to cell, then I'll need to make new interconnects.
>
> Cheers, Pete.
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:49:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some kid
eat his words.
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Hey all
Been a little while since I've had the energy to sit
down and just shoot the breeze with EVerything that's
been going on here. I'll start with saying I got the
first four Impulse9 motors in the other day, so I'll
be keeping you all up to date as they move along.
Both of these are spoken for with Eric taking one and
his buddy Jeff the other. They both have donor Datson
trucks and Zillas pre-ordered last month so we'll be
able to use these as testing prototypes and make sure
EVerythings just right. I'm truly excited about this,
and by teaming up with Eric I'm pretty sure we're
going to be able to kick these out fairly quickly once
setup, that is if there is a call for them.
I try not to use the list as a sales platform but Jeff
had bought a new Warp9. He had no sooner received it
when Eric and I decided to make up the Siamese9's
(which of course he wants now, lol). With that said
I've been primping on it and will be listing it on
Ebay soon. It will feature an anodized variable
timing ring installed (CE plate assy fully finished)
with a stouter insulated lever arm. The housings been
trimmed and the pole shoe bolt holes countersunk and
it's over at the paintshop right now.
I told Todd (paint guy) the story and that I needed a
basic "pay for" job, you know just a little bling. I
also told him if he was interested in showing EVeryone
how "trick" he can get, that I'd kick him down some
extra if it fetched a good price (hey we all got to
eat right, lol) Anyway I'm just waiting on the
housing and I'll pop it together and see what I can
get for it 8^) It won't be "majorly" modded (I wanted
to keep it within reason) but enough done to hopefully
make someone very happy 8^) Just giving a heads up in
case anyone is looking for a no wait pre-built
Hi-Torque motor with unknown paitjob, LMAO.
Okay on to fun story time.
My 11 year old daughter went to a science fair a
couple weeks back and made a simple electric motor
from wire, a "D" battery, and a magnet (she was sooo
proud 8^) While driving home I asked her, did you
tell them I build electric motors? She replied
simply, yes. What they say I asked? The one boy said
"sure he does". I asked her if she told them I built
the worlds quickest EV motors? All she said was yes.
I asked what they say to that? She said no one
believed her. I said, sometimes you just have to know
and have it be enough but I felt bad for her that they
didn't believe her.
I had to go to her class to pick up cookie dough they
were selling the other day (to this day I still hate
being in school, LMAO!). I'd never met the teacher so
we did the usual intro's but I gave a quick "hey that
motor project was cool" subject shift. I asked him if
Kayla had told him about the electric car stuff I'd
been doing? He stated he'd heard a "little" bit.
I gave him a brief run down without taking to much
time from his class and grabbed my cookie dough and
got the hell out of the building. When I picked my
daughter up that day she announced that her teacher
thought I was really cool! I said, what he'd say?
She said he came back into class and told EVeryone
that my dads really cool and repeated some
information.
In fact he pulled Kayla aside after class and asked
her to see if I'd be willing to do a presentation for
the class after winter break. I'll bring in some
gsmall motors and blown up armatures and play some
videos and it should be fun (for school). I told
Kayla not to stick her tongue out at the boy who
doubted, LMAO! Most the time I'm pretty meek, but the
kid called down the thunder and I just had to call him
out, EVen if it meant going to school to do it, LMAO.
I thought it a cute story and wanted to share it.
Anyway I get to not only make the kid eat his words
but do it in a way that (hopefully) turns them on to
the world of electric vehicles 8^) and some pretty
cool ones at that! I guess that's about it for the
time being.
Cya
Jim Husted
Hi-Torque Electric
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:01:49 +0000
From: damon henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some
kid eat his words.
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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> In fact he pulled Kayla aside after class and asked> her to see if I'd be
> willing to do a presentation for> the class after winter break. I'll bring in
> some> gsmall motors and blown up armatures and play some> videos and it
> should be fun (for school). I told> Kayla not to stick her tongue out at the
> boy who> doubted, LMAO! Most the time I'm pretty meek, but the> kid called
> down the thunder and I just had to call him> out, EVen if it meant going to
> school to do it, LMAO.
Hey Jim,
My kids had a week or so of studying circuits in their 4th grade class. When
they hit this point I always brought in a bag full of small motors, switches,
lights and batteries and did a little presentation and some hands on stuff.
They loved it. I always finished by showing off my EV motorcycle, they thought
that was cool. Now I know you don't have an on road EV, but I have seen your
neighbors little go cart. If you want everyone in your daughters class to
think she has the coolest dad you need to bring that in and show it off.
You'll be a Rock Star!!!
damon
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:03:17 -1000
From: "Mark Maher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Siamese9's, a future Ebay sale, and making some
kid eat his words.
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Nice story! I'd love to hear the kid's reactions, especially if you can
figure out which kid was all sarcastic.
So what's the difference between an Impulse9 and a Warp9 anyway? Any
advantage to one or the other? The Impulse 9's are a new product or this is
the first time you're "going through" some of them? Maybe this is for a
racy-job or something...
- Mark
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:47:09 -0800
From: Jeff Shanab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Photo Album Suggestion
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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Sometimes I would like to see what ride one of our readers is talking
about. Like Ricky's "Too Much Torque" post.
How about adding a button for site navigation by owner?
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