On 30 January 2004 Eric Hawthorne wrote:
I really think that to get a good grasp on this kind of issue, one has to
get over ones-self. Step outside for a moment and
consider whether you feeling conscious is as amazing or inexplicable as
you think. Consciousness may very well just be
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
; you might even be able to read the brain, scanning for neuronal
activity and deducing correctly that the subject sees a red flash.
However, it is impossible to know what it feels like to see a red
flash unless you have the actual experience yourself.
Eric Hawthorne wrote:
6. Such an organised religion structure, or god-empowered government
structure, if it succeeds in organizing
people for an extended period of time, as it seems they did, would
naturally tend to take on a life of its own, a
self-reinforcing aspect, an autopoietic function
Blast from the recent past.
This is pertinent to the previous discussions on evolution
as a special case of emergent-system emergence.
It was argued that group selection effects have been discredited in
evolutionary biology. I counterargued that denying the possibility of
a selection effect at
This is a really interesting point. Could you elaborate some specific
From: Eric Hawthorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:11 PM
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Subject: Flaw in denial of group selection principle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:33:15AM -0800, Hal Finney wrote:
What about arguments that attempt to estimate the fraction of observers
who are in simulations versus in base realities, such as Nick Bostrom's
Simulation Argument, www.simulation-argument.com?
Are you saying that such arguments are
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