Re: Modern Physical theory as a basis for Ethical and Existential Nihilism

2004-02-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 30 January 2004 Eric Hawthorne wrote: QUOTE I really think that to get a good grasp on this kind of issue, one has to get over ones-self. Step outside for a moment and consider whether you feeling conscious is as amazing or inexplicable as you think. Consciousness may very well just be an

Re: More on qualia of consciousness and occam's razor

2004-02-01 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: ; you might even be able to read the brain, scanning for neuronal activity and deducing correctly that the subject sees a red flash. However, it is impossible to know what it feels like to see a red flash unless you have the actual experience yourself. So I

Re: More on qualia of consciousness and occam's razor - tiny addendum

2004-02-01 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Eric Hawthorne wrote: 6. Such an organised religion structure, or god-empowered government structure, if it succeeds in organizing people for an extended period of time, as it seems they did, would naturally tend to take on a life of its own, a self-reinforcing aspect, an autopoietic function

Flaw in denial of group selection principle in evolution discovered?

2004-02-01 Thread Eric Hawthorne
Blast from the recent past. This is pertinent to the previous discussions on evolution as a special case of emergent-system emergence. It was argued that group selection effects have been discredited in evolutionary biology. I counterargued that denying the possibility of a selection effect at

RE: Flaw in denial of group selection principle in evolution discovered?

2004-02-01 Thread Ben Goertzel
Eric, This is a really interesting point. Could you elaborate some specific examples perhaps? ben g -Original Message- From: Eric Hawthorne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flaw in denial of group selection principle

Re: Subjective measure? How does that work?

2004-02-01 Thread Wei Dai
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:33:15AM -0800, Hal Finney wrote: What about arguments that attempt to estimate the fraction of observers who are in simulations versus in base realities, such as Nick Bostrom's Simulation Argument, www.simulation-argument.com? Are you saying that such arguments are