Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 13:55 27/04/04 +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Ok, one last stab. You are going to be copied and teleported to 1000 different planets. Only your body and your brain will be copied. On 999 of these planets, everyone speaks Spanish, and on one planet, everyone speaks French. You don't

Re: Quantum mechanics without quantum logic

2004-04-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 17:28 17/04/04 +0200, I wrote: I do believe this has no bearing at all with any magical trick capable of making vanishing the other relative worlds, histories, minds, maximal consistent extensions, possibilities ... That seems to me the most preposterous part of Slavnov paper. In 1939 von

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Kory Heath
Hi Bruno, At 06:46 AM 4/26/04, Bruno Marchal wrote: The important point is that once we keep up comp through the eight points, we see that the laws of physics, whatever they are, must be given by the invariant in the comp-accessible worlds. I'm pretty sure I now understand points 1-8, but let me

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Kory Heath
At 06:08 AM 4/27/04, Bruno Marchal wrote: (BTW, concerning Parfit, he still believe (in his book Reasons and Persons) that we are token. I have already argued that with the comp hyp we can only be type. That means we cannot been made singular. The only argument Parfit gives for our token

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 08:23 27/04/04 -0400, Kory Heath wrote: Hi Bruno, At 06:46 AM 4/26/04, Bruno Marchal wrote: The important point is that once we keep up comp through the eight points, we see that the laws of physics, whatever they are, must be given by the invariant in the comp-accessible worlds. I'm pretty

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 08:34 27/04/04 -0400, Kory Heath wrote: At 06:08 AM 4/27/04, Bruno Marchal wrote: (BTW, concerning Parfit, he still believe (in his book Reasons and Persons) that we are token. I have already argued that with the comp hyp we can only be type. That means we cannot been made singular. The only

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread Kory Heath
At 10:17 AM 4/27/04, Bruno Marchal wrote: Don't worry, I will try NOT to give a 120h course in mathematical logic which is just impossible without chalk black board. But I will try to give some insights. I must think how to do it. It will help me, btw, to prepare my talk in Paris and Amsterdam so

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-27 Thread John M
Bruno: I really TRY to catch up with the discussions - however I can't help feeling that what's going on is a physicalistic (?) *translation* of Judeo-Christian theology: whe we die, we (soul?) transfer to the Dear Good Lord's Heaven/Paradise (= called1000 different planets) - sometimes expressed

Re: Definitation of Observers

2004-04-27 Thread Eric Hawthorne
pattern | physical pattern (constraint on the arrangement of matter and energy in space and time) | physical process (physical pattern with characteristics like that some regular and often localized, and yet complex form of change is of its essence. Can be described as comprised of states,