Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Feb 2019, at 13:00, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 2:20:25 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 8:43:59 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: > > > On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-7, Bruno

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-11 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 2:20:25 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 8:43:59 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 3 Feb 2019, at 00:03, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-10 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 8:43:59 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 3 Feb 2019, at 00:03, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 8:56:57 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 Feb 2019, at 00:03, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 1:40:29 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Feb 2019, at 00:03, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 1:40:29 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 21:29, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: >> >> >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 1:40:29 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 1 Feb 2019, at 21:29, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:55:30 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 1:40:29 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Feb 2019, at 21:29, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:55:30 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 21:10, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 1 Feb 2019, at 21:29, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:55:30 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 21:10, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:47:12 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:29:49 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:55:30 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 21:10, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:47:12 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 5:07:55 PM UTC-7, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 2:10:06 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > ... the phase angles are responsible for interference. I doubt that > result. Am I mistaken? AG > > > > Whatever approach you

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:55:30 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 31 Jan 2019, at 21:10, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:47:12 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 01:28, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-02-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2019, at 21:10, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:47:12 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 31 Jan 2019, at 01:28, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:38:58 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-31 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 2:10:06 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: ... the phase angles are responsible for interference. I doubt that result. Am I mistaken? AG Whatever approach you take, it's still like each possibility has a little spin wheel marking its phase:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 31, 2019 at 6:47:12 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 31 Jan 2019, at 01:28, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:38:58 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:16:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 31 Jan 2019, at 01:28, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:38:58 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:16:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 02:59, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: >> >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-30 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:38:58 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:16:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Jan 2019, at 02:59, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Bruno

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-30 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 5:16:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Jan 2019, at 02:59, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 22:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 Jan 2019, at 02:59, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 Jan 2019, at 22:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:33:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-29 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 4:37:34 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Jan 2019, at 22:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:33:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 09:29, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 28 Jan 2019, at 22:50, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:33:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 24 Jan 2019, at 09:29, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:54:43 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-28 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 7:33:05 AM UTC-7, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Jan 2019, at 09:29, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:54:43 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:56:17 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Jan 2019, at 09:29, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:54:43 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:56:17 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:50, agrays...@gmail.com <>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-24 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:54:43 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:56:17 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:09:58 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 20 gennaio 2019 alle 13.25 agrayson2...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Il 20 gennaio 2019 alle 12.56 agrays...@gmail.com ha > > scritto: > > > > > > > > > > > > On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > Il 20 gennaio 2019 alle 12.56 agrays...@gmail.com ha > scritto: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > [BRUNO writes] It has a non null amplitude of probability of being here > and there

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 20 gennaio 2019 alle 12.56 agrayson2...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > > > > > > [BRUNO writes] It has a non null amplitude of probability of being > > here and there at the same time, like having a

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 11:54:43 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:56:17 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:09:58 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 10:46:01 AM UTC, scerir wrote: > > > [BRUNO writes] It has a non null amplitude of probability of being here > and there at the same time, like having a non null amplitude of probability > of going through each slit in the two slits experience. If not, you can’t

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 9:56:17 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:50, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:09:58 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 14:48, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
[BRUNO writes] It has a non null amplitude of probability of being here and there at the same time, like having a non null amplitude of probability of going through each slit in the two slits experience. If not, you can’t explain the inference patterns, especially in the photon

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:50, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:09:58 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 14:48, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 17

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-18 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:09:58 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 14:48, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:33, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 14:48, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:33, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-18 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This means, to me, that the arbitrary

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 4:26:25 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 3:49:10 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/17/2019 5:23 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 8:33:21 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 3:49:10 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/17/2019 5:23 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 8:33:21 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/17/2019 5:23 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 8:33:21 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 14,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 1:48:57 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:33, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 8:33:21 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:33, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jan 2019, at 09:33, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-17 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 3:58:48 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This means, to me, that the arbitrary

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-16 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/16/2019 7:25 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no effect on the resultant interference pattern

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-16 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no > effect on the resultant interference pattern which is observed. But isn't > this what the phase

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 12:10:23 AM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 5:52:39 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 11:41:15 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 4:58:52 PM

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 5:52:39 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 11:41:15 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 11:41:15 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 10:27:19 AM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 2:53:53 AM

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 4:58:52 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 10:27:19 AM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 2:53:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 10:27:19 AM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 2:53:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 2:53:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no >> effect on

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no > effect on the resultant interference pattern which is observed. But isn't > this what the phase

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-14 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:12:43 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no > effect on the resultant interference pattern which is observed. But isn't > this what the phase

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/13/2019 9:51 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: This means, to me, that the arbitrary phase angles have absolutely no effect on the resultant interference pattern which is observed. But isn't this what the phase angles are supposed to effect? AG The screen pattern is determined by

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 7:12:31 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 3:04:10 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 13 Jan 2019, at 07:24, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 4:13:24 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 3:04:10 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 13 Jan 2019, at 07:24, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 4:13:24 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 13 Jan 2019, at 07:24, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 4:13:24 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: > > > On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 7:40:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 4:13:24 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 7:40:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/11/2019 1:54 AM, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 7:40:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/11/2019 1:54 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> *How can you prepare a system in any superposition state if you don't >> know the

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 7:40:13 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/11/2019 1:54 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > *How can you prepare a system in any superposition state if you don't know > the phase angles beforehand? You fail to distinguish measuring or assuming > the phase angles

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 5:52:46 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Suppose the original wf is expressed in terms of p, and its superposition > expansion is also expressed in eigenfunctions with variable p. Does the > phase of the original wf carry over into the

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/11/2019 1:54 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: *How can you prepare a system in any superposition state if you don't know the phase angles beforehand? You fail to distinguish measuring or assuming the phase angles from calculating them. One doesn't need Born's rule to calculate them.

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 10:11:10 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 10:54, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 9:07:50 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Jan 2019, at 10:54, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 9:07:50 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 9

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread agrayson2000
On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 9:07:50 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:08, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Jan 2019, at 21:33, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-10 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-10 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-10 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 11:07:51 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Jan 2019, at 07:58, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:45:01 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 11:37:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:45:01 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM wrote: >>> On Saturday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 7, 2019 at 2:52:27 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:45:01 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:46:41 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>> wrote: On Thursday,

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:45:01 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM > wrote: > >> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:46:41 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:46:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>> wrote: On

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM wrote: > On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:46:41 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:46:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:13:57 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>> wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2019-01-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:46:41 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:46:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:13:57 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, December

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:46:13 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:13:57 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:42:51 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:52 PM wrote: >>>

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:13:57 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:42:51 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:52 PM wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:42:06 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>> wrote:

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:42:51 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:52 PM > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:42:06 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 9:57:41 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-05 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:52 PM wrote: > On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:42:06 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 9:57:41 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:36 AM wrote: >>> *Thanks, but I'm looking for a solution within

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 11:42:06 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 9:57:41 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:36 AM wrote: >> >>> >>> *Thanks, but I'm looking for a solution within the context of >>> interference and

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 9:57:41 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:36 AM > wrote: > >> >> *Thanks, but I'm looking for a solution within the context of >> interference and coherence, without introducing your theory of >> consciousness. Mainstream thinking today is that

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-04 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:36 AM wrote: > > *Thanks, but I'm looking for a solution within the context of interference > and coherence, without introducing your theory of consciousness. Mainstream > thinking today is that decoherence does occur, but this seems to imply > preexisting coherence, and

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-04 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
> Il 4 dicembre 2018 alle 16.36 agrayson2...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 10:13:38 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 Dec 2018, at 20:57, agrays...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 10:13:38 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 Dec 2018, at 20:57, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 1:05:26 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:39:14 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Dec 2018, at 20:57, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 1:05:26 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:39:14 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com <> > wrote: > If you write a superposition as a sum of eigenstates, why is

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-12-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 1:05:26 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:39:14 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> If you write a superposition as a sum of eigenstates, why is it >> important, or relevant, or even true that the component

Re: Coherent states of a superposition

2018-11-18 Thread agrayson2000
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 7:39:14 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > If you write a superposition as a sum of eigenstates, why is it important, > or relevant, or even true that the component states are coherent since > eigenstates with distinct eigenvalues are orthogonal. This

Coherent states of a superposition

2018-11-17 Thread agrayson2000
If you write a superposition as a sum of eigenstates, why is it important, or relevant, or even true that the component states are coherent since eigenstates with distinct eigenvalues are orthogonal. This means there is no interference between the components of the superposition. AG -- You