Re: Evil ? (was: Hypostases (was: Natural Order Belief)

2006-12-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 19-déc.-06, à 21:32, Brent Meeker a écrit : Bruno Marchal wrote: I know it seems a little bit paradoxical, but then it is my methodology to take seriously the interview of the lobian machine, which is famous for its many paradoxical thoughts. It is certainly not a reductio against comp,

RE: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent meeker writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Evolution explains why we have good and bad, but it doesn't explain why good and bad feel as they do, or why we *should* care about good and bad That's asking why we should care about what we should care

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread 1Z
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Evolution explains why we have good and bad, but it doesn't explain why good and bad feel as they do, or why we *should* care about good and bad That's asking why we should

Re: Cosmological Theodicea - JOINING post

2006-12-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Maurizio, Le 11-déc.-06, à 14:29, Maurizio Morabito a écrit : Hello everybody I am a 39-year-old male with a Master in Engineering, a scientific background and an enduring passion for Cosmology I have been elaborating something along lines similar to Tegmark's myself for a few years,

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread James N Rose
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Perhaps none of the participants in this thread really disagree. Let me see if I can summarise: Individuals and societies have arrived at ethical beliefs for a reason, whether that be evolution, what their parents taught them, or what it says in a book believed to

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread 1Z
Moral and natural laws. An investigation of natural laws, and, in parallel, a defence of ethical objectivism.The objectivity, to at least some extent, of science will be assumed; the sceptic may differ, but there is no convincing some people). At first glance, morality looks as though it

RE: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread Jef Allbright
peterdjones wrote: Moral and natural laws. An investigation of natural laws, and, in parallel, a defence of ethical objectivism.The objectivity, to at least some extent, of science will be assumed; the sceptic may differ, but there is no convincing some people). snip As ethical

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Evolution explains why we have good and bad, but it doesn't explain why good and bad feel as they do, or why we *should* care about good and bad That's asking why we should care

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread Brent Meeker
1Z wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent meeker writes: Evolution explains why we have good and bad, but it doesn't explain why good and bad feel as they do, or why we *should* care about good and bad That's

Re: computer pain

2006-12-20 Thread Brent Meeker
Jef Allbright wrote: peterdjones wrote: Moral and natural laws. An investigation of natural laws, and, in parallel, a defence of ethical objectivism.The objectivity, to at least some extent, of science will be assumed; the sceptic may differ, but there is no convincing some people).

testing

2006-12-20 Thread John Mikes
This is the 3rd time I send a 'test' to myself. I receive list-post on this gmail address, but my mail does not show up, neither here nor on the YAHOO-mail address I unsubscribed from. Am I still on the No e-mail exclusion? Or does the listserve not recognise my mailing? John Mikes

Re: testing

2006-12-20 Thread Saibal Mitra
The listserver was experiencing a lot of computer pain recently and that prevented it from function normally :) John Mikes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the 3rd time I send a 'test' to myself. I receive list-post on this gmail address, but my mail does not show up, neither here nor on the

Re: testing

2006-12-20 Thread Wei Dai
Your posts have been coming through. You can check http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en yourself to see if your posts have been received by the group. - Original Message - From: John Mikes To: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; Wei Dai Sent: Thursday, December 21,