Re: Key Post 1, toward Church Thesis and Lobian machine

2007-12-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:55:50PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi David, Mirek, Tom, Barry and All, ... The cardinality of the set of computable functions. Thanks for this post. I was in the position of trying to explain your work to someone (actually a son of my mother's cousin) at a

Re: Key Post 1, toward Church Thesis and Lobian machine

2007-12-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:08:34PM +0100, Mirek Dobsicek wrote: Each expression like that denotes now either a computable function from N to N, or as we have to expect something else. And we have to expect they are no computable means to distinguish which U_i represents functions

Re: Key Post 1, toward Church Thesis and Lobian machine

2007-12-05 Thread Mirek Dobsicek
Hi Bruno, thank you for your post. I read it a couple of times in order to more or less grasp it, but it worth it. I have some questions... Suppose there is a secure universal machine M. The set of expressions it can compute provide a secure universal language L. That set is not only