2010/1/13 Nick Prince m...@dtech.fsnet.co.uk:
I’ve read through a good deal of previous posts on the ASSA/RSSA
debate but I keep reaching a stumbling block regarding how successive
observer moments (OM) are to be expected in terms of their
continuity. I think Youness Ayaita queried the same
2010/1/13 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
You're asserting that neuron I/O replication is the appropriate level to
make brain behavior the same; and I tend to agree that would be sufficient
(though perhaps not necessary). But that's preserving a particular
algorithm; one more specific
2010/1/14 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com:
Given the ways ASSA has been defined, I think there are two possible camps
within ASSA. One that believes there is a next moment for you to
experience, chosen randomly from among all, and another which believes there
is no next moment, the observer
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote:
2010/1/14 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com:
Given the ways ASSA has been defined, I think there are two possible
camps
within ASSA. One that believes there is a next moment for you to
experience, chosen
All,
I've created a basic survey regarding common topics of discussion on the
everything list. I think the results would be quite interesting. It is
available here:
http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=n32533346wr4fp0694426
If others come forward with a lot of suggestions for
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
...
The ASSA/RSSA distinction on this list came, as I understand it, from
debate on the validity of the idea of quantum immortality. This is
the theory that in a multiverse you can never die, because at every
juncture where you could die there is always a version of
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
2010/1/13 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
You're asserting that neuron I/O replication is the appropriate level to
make brain behavior the same; and I tend to agree that would be sufficient
(though perhaps not necessary). But that's preserving a particular
On Jan 13, 6:21 pm, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
...
The ASSA/RSSA distinction on this list came, as I understand it, from
debate on the validity of the idea of quantum immortality. This is
the theory that in a multiverse you can never die,
Stathis,
I feel both ASSA and RSSA are variations WITHIN human thinking with a
minuscule difference of handling. When I TRY to think about 'everything' I
feel I have to step out from the restrictions of the human 'mind'(?)
capabilities and (at least) imagine to grasp totality (i.e. the
There have been 9 responses so far, I've attached a preview of the results
to this e-mail. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to make the
results publicly viewable. With this free service, the survey will remain
live until 10 days pass or until there are 50 responses.
Jason
On Wed,
2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com:
Interesting so far:
- people are about evenly divided on the question of whether computers
can be conscious
- no-one really knows what to make of OM's
- more people believe cats are conscious than dogs
Oh, and one person does not believe
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
stath...@gmail.comwrote:
2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com:
Interesting so far:
- people are about evenly divided on the question of whether
2010/1/14 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
Yes, I can see that. By aggregating the brain into one computation do you
mean replacing it with a synchronous digital computer whose program would
not only reproduce the I/O of individual neurons, but also the instantaneous
state on signals
2010/1/14 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com:
I agree, there is no subjective difference. But I think there is a logical
difference, if you are only your current OM why go to work when some other
OM will enjoy the fruits of that labor? But by attaching every OM to the
same observer then there
2010/1/14 Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com:
Is this different from your idea that experiencing Friday only comes after
experinicing Thursday because Friday contains some memory of Thursday?
You seem to be assuming an extrinsic order in the above.
I think it would be the same regardless
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