Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:41 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > The time it takes a black hole (BH) to quantum decay completely is > proportional to the cube of the mass, which means the black hole has > emitted half its mass in 7/8ths of its expected duration. This

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:43 PM John Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM Lawrence Crowell wrote: > all the radiation emitted is entangled with the black hole, which would then > mean the entanglement entropy increases

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 3:19:39 AM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 11:42:33 AM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/6/2019 1:27 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 1:03:16 AM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Mar 2019, at 03:16, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > They say if information is lost, determination is toast. > > > That is not correct. If information is lost, reversibility is toast, but > determination can be

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Mar 2019, at 09:54, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 1:43:05 AM UTC-6, Liz R wrote: >> >> I thought QM was deterministic, at least mathematically - and I guess in >> the MWI? >> > >

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

2019-03-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 4:19:16 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 5:29 PM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > *> in the biological world certain problems that are NP are figured out. >> This runs from ants finding the minimal distance for their trails or even >> protistans

Re: Recommend this article, Even just for the Wheeler quote near the end

2019-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Mar 2019, at 21:16, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 3/10/2019 6:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 9 Mar 2019, at 01:16, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/8/2019 2:28 AM,

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Mar 2019, at 03:16, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > They say if information is lost, determination is toast. That is not correct. If information is lost, reversibility is toast, but determination can be conserved. Typically the Kestrek bird K is irreversible, as it eliminates

Re: My son the mathematician

2019-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Mar 2019, at 08:46, Liz R wrote: > > Here is his first co-authored paper (at the age of 20). > > Topology and its Applications > > Volume 254 > , 1 March >

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Mar 2019, at 09:54, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 1:43:05 AM UTC-6, Liz R wrote: > I thought QM was deterministic, at least mathematically - and I guess in the > MWI? > > QM is deterministic, but only as far as reconstructing wf's as time is >

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 8:04:57 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:43 PM John Clark > wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfield...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> > all the radiation emitted is entangled with the black hole, which >>> would

Re: Black holes and the information paradox

2019-03-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 7:43:54 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:42 PM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > all the radiation emitted is entangled with the black hole, which would >> then mean the entanglement entropy increases beyond the Bekenstein bound. > > > >