RE: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Universities are the autocratic kings of censorship and repression. It is no mistake that the most tyrannical of presidents Wilson and Obama arrived from the realm of professorship. I would add FDR and his internment camps, but he did free more peeps, than he imprisoned to say the least, so

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
That's behind a paywall. Can you post a copy? Brent I hope it works http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~jabarret/bio/publications/ToBeAWorld.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
As long as people can move to another site to say their piece, then there is no issue. On the other hand, the practice has been to censor and de-platform the opponents of twitter, youtube, banks, that were involved in the original censorship. My fix would be to repeal fcc ruling 232 and permit

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 3:10 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > >> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 3:49 am, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> *What would be the mechanism or process for other worlds to interact >>> with each other, that is to interfere

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 7:28:14 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 3:49 am, Alan Grayson wrote: > >> *What would be the mechanism or process for other worlds to interact with >> each other, that is to interfere with each other? This is the gorilla in >> the room that

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 12:47 am, 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Imagine a spin-1/2 particle described by the *superposition* psi = > sqrt(1/2)[(s+)_z +(s-)_z] . > > If the x-component of spin is measured by passing the spin-1/2 particle > through a

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 3:49 am, Alan Grayson wrote: > *What would be the mechanism or process for other worlds to interact with > each other, that is to interfere with each other? This is the gorilla in > the room that many MWI enthusiasts ignore; awesome speculation with zero > grounding in

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Alan Grayson
https://www.socsci.uci.edu/~jabarret/bio/publications/ToBeAWorld.pdf On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 3:13:01 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 1/16/2021 4:25 AM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: > > > > On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 8:16 pm, 'scerir' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
In the back of my paranoid limbic system, I imagined that covid was being juiced up in the wuhan lab so that Xi could infect HK, and then send in the troops into a dedicated hotzone, to show the world that they the Party, and PLA, are true humanitarians. It must have escaped, some think,

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/16/2021 4:11 AM, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List > wrote: /> For me, all I need to see is which companies are doing the censoring?/ To censor someone you need the power to imprison or

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/16/2021 4:25 AM, Pierz Newton-John wrote: On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 8:16 pm, 'scerir' via Everything List > wrote: Pierz wrote: "If you want to argue against the internal logic of MWI, you have to start by accepting what it proposes then

Re: FW: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:18 AM Philip Benjamin wrote: >> “No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same >> reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say >> is a very unproductive thing to do” > > > > [*Philip Benjamin*] There are hundreds

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Alan Grayson
*What would be the mechanism or process for other worlds to interact with each other, that is to interfere with each other? This is the gorilla in the room that many MWI enthusiasts ignore; awesome speculation with zero grounding in empirical evidence. Something definitely awry with this pov.

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 1:23:52 AM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 2:18 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 6:16:25 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 5:56 am, Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Thursday, January

FW: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread Philip Benjamin
general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg [John K Clark] "No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say is a very

RE: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread Philip Benjamin
[John K Clark] "No universities are doing any censoring either and for exactly the same reason, although I do think threatening to expel students for what they say is a very unproductive thing to do" [Philip Benjamin] There are hundreds if not thousands of instances to the contrary. Some are

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Imagine a spin-1/2 particle described by the *superposition* psi = sqrt(1/2)[(s+)_z +(s-)_z] . If the x-component of spin is measured by passing the spin-1/2 particle through a Stern-Gerlach with its field oriented along the x-axis, the particle will *always* emerge 'up'. Why? It is a

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 8:16 pm, 'scerir' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Pierz wrote: "If you want to argue against the internal logic of MWI, you > have to start by accepting what it proposes then proceeding to demonstrate > how that leads to internal

Re: Q Anon is the tip of the iceberg

2021-01-16 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> For me, all I need to see is which companies are doing the censoring?* > To censor someone you need the power to imprison or kill them if they say something you don't like, so no company

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Relatable
OK, but maybe the problem is in understanding? And asking questions. Like, I don't think we could use our phones today before actually trying to understand how to build them. And if we are dealing with quantum, I thought that must be illogical. On Sat, 16 Jan 2021, 09:37 'scerir' via

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
"They show that MWI is inconsistent, in the Schroedinger picture. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00763476; the paper (pdf) is here: http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~jabarret/bio/publications/ToBeAWorld.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread 'scerir' via Everything List
Pierz wrote: "If you want to argue against the internal logic of MWI, you have to start by accepting what it proposes then proceeding to demonstrate how that leads to internal inconsistency." They show that MWI is inconsistent, in the Schroedinger picture.

Re: Born's rule from almost nothing

2021-01-16 Thread Pierz Newton-John
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 2:18 pm, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 6:16:25 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: > >> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 5:56 am, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 11:36:39 PM UTC-7 Pierz wrote: >>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 4:01 pm,