Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On 3 May 2015 at 17:53, Samiya Illias wrote: > > >> So you admit that, although you think you are probably right, it's > >> possible you are wrong and the Quran is just a fantasy? > > > > > > From a non-Muslim perspective, that is quit

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread LizR
On 4 May 2015 at 12:25, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > I saw your responses but they beg the question. The problem is that if > faith is a valid way of arriving at truth, then everyone's faith is > equally valid. > > It also indicates that dogs know far more truth than humans. (Actually Raymond

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3 May 2015 at 17:53, Samiya Illias wrote: >> So you admit that, although you think you are probably right, it's >> possible you are wrong and the Quran is just a fantasy? > > > From a non-Muslim perspective, that is quite possible. My heart testifies > that it is indeed a message from the Lord

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 May 2015, at 21:07, Samiya Illias wrote: On 01-May-2015, at 10:12 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 May 2015, at 05:50, meekerdb wrote: Surprisingly there's already a textbook teaching Bruno's ideas. :-) Brent Forwarded Message https://www.abeka.com/AbekaDiffere

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> >> >> On 03-May-2015, at 8:31 am, Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Pa

Fwd: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias > wrote: > > > On 03-May-2015, at 8:31 am, Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
> On 03-May-2015, at 8:31 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > >> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: John M, What use will your agnost

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias > > wrote: >> >>> John M, >>> What use will your agnosticism be to you if there will be a reckoning? >>> >> >> What use will your faith

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >>> John M, >>> What use will your agnosticism be to you if there will be a reckoning? >>> >> >> What use will your

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> John M, >> What use will your agnosticism be to you if there will be a reckoning? >> > > What use will your faith be to you if you have chosen the wrong one? > That is why we must

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote: > John M, > What use will your agnosticism be to you if there will be a reckoning? > What use will your faith be to you if you have chosen the wrong one? > As per my understanding of the scripture, these precious few years that > we've been given o

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
John M, What use will your agnosticism be to you if there will be a reckoning? As per my understanding of the scripture, these precious few years that we've been given on Earth is to find faith, believe and do good deeds. The belief in the one true God is a prerequisite to our being granted the Bal

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-02 Thread John Mikes
Dear Quentin, thanks for your reflection - B U T let me not go into it for several reasons. 1. I am not a believer (have no faith) 2. I am not an atheist (I am an agnostic). 3. I did not want to identify 'blasphemy 4. I did not want to identify "God" either. 5. I am also agnostic about the "

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2015-05-01 21:32 GMT+02:00 John Mikes : > Dear Samiya, > > Bruno may be a 'believer' - even if not entirely formally - but your > question is funny (in my views): > > * "Bruno, what is your concept of God? ..." * > > Accepting a 'God' concept in your (Quran extracted?) terms, such a concept > of

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread John Mikes
Dear Samiya, Bruno may be a 'believer' - even if not entirely formally - but your question is funny (in my views): * "Bruno, what is your concept of God? ..." * Accepting a 'God' concept in your (Quran extracted?) terms, such a concept of the infinite (some call it Supernatural) Creator, Maint

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread Samiya Illias
> On 01-May-2015, at 10:12 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> On 01 May 2015, at 05:50, meekerdb wrote: >> >> Surprisingly there's already a textbook teaching Bruno's ideas. :-) >> >> Brent >> >> >> Forwarded Message >> >> https://www.abeka.com/AbekaDifference.aspx >> >> M

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 May 2015, at 05:50, meekerdb wrote: Surprisingly there's already a textbook teaching Bruno's ideas. :-) Brent Forwarded Message https://www.abeka.com/AbekaDifference.aspx Mathematics The study of logic and order to apply to science and daily life Unlike the "mo

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread Alberto G. Corona
It may be even worst http://tldrify.com/8hh modern mathematical methods is nothing more than the deliberate destruction of teaching that has happened in every other discipline. Really I donĀ“t think that progressivism of communism is the cause but one of the effects of a wider evil mindset that a

Re: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-05-01 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Set theory is not about sets, but about deriving every other mathematics mathematical structures from sets. It is quite cumbresome and theoretical and does not use the natural mathematical intuitions. And thus it is not appropriate or teaching kids. And yet is is used for teaching since the rationa

Fwd: A Beka Book and the Set Theory of Satan

2015-04-30 Thread meekerdb
Surprisingly there's already a textbook teaching Bruno's ideas. :-) Brent Forwarded Message https://www.abeka.com/AbekaDifference.aspx Mathematics The study of logic and order to apply to science and daily life Unlike the "modern math" theorists, who believe that mat