Re: By far this is the smartest AI yet

2024-09-22 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
@Brent. You don't have great logical skills, do you ? Is the other way around: If you find a conscious entity, it must be smart. You can never find a smart object. On Thursday 19 September 2024 at 22:46:28 UTC+3 Brent Meeker wrote: > So if you find a smart object it must be conscious. > > > On

Three Mile Island nuclear plant​ will reopen to power Microsoft AI

2024-09-20 Thread John Clark
*Three Mile Island nuclear plant will reopen to power Microsoft AI* <https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/20/constellation-energy-to-restart-three-mile-island-and-sell-the-power-to-microsoft.html> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/e

Re: By far this is the smartest AI yet

2024-09-19 Thread Brent Meeker
So if you find a smart object it must be conscious. On 9/19/2024 5:18 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: An object cannot be smart. Only consciousness is smart. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe fro

Re: By far this is the smartest AI yet

2024-09-19 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
An object cannot be smart. Only consciousness is smart. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

Re: New AI has an IQ of 120

2024-09-19 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
Intelligence is the ability of consciousness to bring new ideas into existence out of nothing. Given this consideration, you just proved that your IQ is around 80. On Wednesday 18 September 2024 at 20:09:26 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: > *This is why OpenAI o1 preview (alias strawberry, alias Q*) i

New AI has an IQ of 120

2024-09-18 Thread John Clark
*This is why OpenAI o1 preview (alias strawberry, alias Q*) is so exciting, previous AIs have topped out at about IQ 90, but this one has a 120 IQ. Last November, when this thing was developed, it got everybody so hot and bothered that they fired Sam Altman as head of OpenAI, and then quickly hire

AI chatbot got conspiracy theorists to question their convictions

2024-09-17 Thread John Clark
*AI chatbot got conspiracy theorists to question their convictions* <https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02966-6> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> cte -- You received this message because you are subscri

By far this is the smartest AI yet

2024-09-12 Thread John Clark
*This blows every other AI out of the water when it comes to programming, mathematics and science. And the amazing/scary thing is that it's scalable, the more raw compute power you throw at it the smarter it gets. All you need is hardware. It's called "Open AI o1" a.k.a. str

Re: Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-26 Thread PGC
On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:43:58 PM UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote: > You don't ask, "Is X wise." unless you compare it the possible alternatives...if you're wise. If you're suggesting that the alternative to rallying behind Harris is Trump, then the context changes significantly. In tha

Re: Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-25 Thread Alan Grayson
Harris is about as good as it gets, but is that enough to avoid WW3 on her watch? AG On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 6:01:29 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 3:14 PM PGC wrote: > > *> Regarding politics, some reflections on the Democratic Convention from >> my perspective: Wa

Re: Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-25 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 3:14 PM PGC wrote: *> Regarding politics, some reflections on the Democratic Convention from > my perspective: Watching the proceedings I had time to watch, I couldn't > help but notice a focus on performance over substance.* > *Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 because she put

Re: Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 8/24/2024 12:14 PM, PGC wrote: Regarding politics, some reflections on the Democratic Convention from my perspective: Watching the proceedings I had time to watch, I couldn't help but notice a focus on performance over substance. Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have both fi

Re: Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-24 Thread PGC
Regarding politics, some reflections on the Democratic Convention from my perspective: Watching the proceedings I had time to watch, I couldn't help but notice a focus on performance over substance. Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have both firmly backed Biden, and now Harris is b

Can AI Scaling Continue Through 2030?

2024-08-24 Thread John Clark
*There's a very interesting paper at: * *Can AI Scaling Continue Through 2030? <https://epochai.org/blog/can-ai-scaling-continue-through-2030>* *They highlight 4 things that might slow down the growth of AI but, spoiler alert, despite these constraints the answer they come to at

Politics, AI and Quantum Computing

2024-08-14 Thread John Clark
People have been predicting that deep fakes will have an impact on the election and now, thanks to Elon Musk, it looks like that prediction is coming true: Kamala Harris with a gun, Barack Obama stabbing Joe Biden

The best text to picture AI program is free

2024-08-05 Thread John Clark
I think this is pretty remarkable, it's called "Flux" and it's free, and open source, and it's small enough to run on your home desktop computer if it has a $1000 graphics accelerator card in it. I'm glad I don't make my living as a commercial artist! The best

Open source Llama AI outperforming GPT-4o and Claude in function calling

2024-07-19 Thread John Clark
What really interested in me in this is that it's much smaller than GPT-4o and Claude, it's open source, and: "*By achieving top performance using only synthetic data, Groq challenges the notion that vast amounts of real-world data are necessary for creating cutting-edge AI models*.

Re: AI hype

2024-07-11 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
e saying if I take a high dose of magic mushrooms and my >>>>>>> consciousness changes, it is so obvious that a 5yo kid would understand >>>>>>> it, >>>>>>> that the mushrooms *do not* cause a change to my consciousness? >>&

Re: AI hype

2024-07-11 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
cci sequence is defined not an example >>>> of self-reference as you use the term? If it's not, then you are using >>>> "self-reference" in a very non-standard that is sure to confuse a lot of >>>> people, especially computer scient

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread Brent Meeker
a lot of people, especially computer scientists. Jason On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread Brent Meeker
What makes you think LLM's are deterministic? Brent On 7/9/2024 1:03 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions such as if (color == white) {    print ("Is day"); } else {    print (&q

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread Terren Suydam
;>>>>> begin is mere correlation? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:51 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>>>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>&

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
>>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:51 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Terren. Based on your logic, if when you get outside in the rain is &

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread Terren Suydam
M 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Terren. Based on your logic, if when you get outside in the rain is >>>>> cold and when you are inside the house is warm => house

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
le course on youtube. You are an adult for God sake, Santa Claus is >>>> for >>>> children. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:58:16 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:15 PM 'Cosmin Visan

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
t;> single course on youtube. You are an adult for God sake, Santa Claus is for >>> children. >>> >>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:58:16 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:15 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
ake, Santa Claus is for >> children. >> >> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:58:16 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:15 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>&

Re: New AI training tech is 13 times faster and 10 times more power efficient

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
So what ? How does AI help with anything ? It is just a gimmick. On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 21:45:51 UTC+3 John Clark wrote: > *New AI training tech is 13 times faster and 10 times more power efficient > — DeepMind's new JEST optimizes training data for impressive gain

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread Quentin Anciaux
te: >> >> >>> *> Arguments need to be made based on reason, not on robotic plug-in of >>> replies.* >> >> >> Like dismissing AI and Atomically Precise Manufacturing (a.k.a. N >> anotechnology) by invoking Santa Claus? By the way, when talking

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
s need to be made based on reason, not on robotic plug-in of >>> replies.* >> >> >> Like dismissing AI and Atomically Precise Manufacturing (a.k.a. N >> anotechnology) by invoking Santa Claus? By the way, when talking about >> the Singularity that is coming in

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:15 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > >> *> Arguments need to be made based on reason, not on robotic plug-in of >> replies.* > > > Like dismissing AI and Atomically

Re: AI hype

2024-07-10 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
gic, if when you get outside in the rain is >>>> cold and when you are inside the house is warm => house generates >>>> consciousness. Correlation is not causation. This even a 5-years old kid >>>> understands. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 9 Ju

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Terren Suydam
rren. Based on your logic, if when you get outside in the rain is >>> cold and when you are inside the house is warm => house generates >>> consciousness. Correlation is not causation. This even a 5-years old kid >>> understands. >>> >>> On Tues

New AI training tech is 13 times faster and 10 times more power efficient

2024-07-09 Thread John Clark
*New AI training tech is 13 times faster and 10 times more power efficient — DeepMind's new JEST optimizes training data for impressive gains <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/google-claims-new-ai-training-tech-is-13-times-faster-and-10-times-more-power-e

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
hat is sure to confuse a lot of >>> people, especially computer scientists. >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue,

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Quentin Anciaux
as you use the term? If it's not, then you are using >> "self-reference" in a very non-standard that is sure to confuse a lot of >> people, especially computer scientists. >> >> Jason >> >> >>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
then you are using > "self-reference" in a very non-standard that is sure to confuse a lot of > people, especially computer scientists. > > Jason > > >> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On T

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
-years old kid understands. >> >> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 17:39:34 UTC+3 Terren Suydam wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:01 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Quent

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Samiya Illias
e: > >  > @Quentin. Of course I am a magical entity. I am God. And so are you. We are > are all one and the same God dreaming infinite dreams. > > @Quentin @Stathis. That's where the whole magical belief in AI comes from, > from believing that you are robots. Wel

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Jason Resch
ts. Jason > On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> lol ? By knowing that all AI does is

Re: AI hype Not so Hypy!

2024-07-09 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
I do like neuroscientist Hoffman indeed. But for tidings of comfort and joy, ♪ I'm like a Dog returning to his vomit, head's for Physicists and Astrophysicists for the Big Honking Explanations. Clark, all this seems Panpsychically delicious for you man,  https://scientificandmedical.net/roger-p

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Terren Suydam
That reminds me of Donald Hoffman's idea of reality as emerging from the interactions of “conscious agents”. These interactions are governed by mathematical principles. The apparent solidity and objectivity of the physical world are illusions created by the network of interactions among conscious a

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Terren Suydam
iousness. > Correlation is not causation. This even a 5-years old kid understands. > > On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 17:39:34 UTC+3 Terren Suydam wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:01 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < >> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >&

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
@Terren. The dream is ordered because it is a statistical effect of interacting consciousnesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-l

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:01 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> @Quentin @Stathis. That's where the whole magical belief in AI comes >> from, from believing that you are robots. Well.. breaking news: you are >&g

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
: > >> lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions >> such as >> >> if (color == white) { >>print ("Is day"); >> } else { >>print ("Is night"); >> } >> > > This was an objectio

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Terren Suydam
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:01 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > @Quentin @Stathis. That's where the whole magical belief in AI comes from, > from believing that you are robots. Well.. breaking news: you are not! You &

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:15 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *> Arguments need to be made based on reason, not on robotic plug-in of > replies.* Like dismissing AI and Atomically Precise Manufacturing (a.k.a. N anotech

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions > such as > > if (color == white) { >print ("Is day"); > } else {

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Jason Resch
at's where the whole magical belief in AI comes from, > from believing that you are robots. Well.. breaking news: you are not! You > are God. "Brain" is just a picture that you as God dreams in this dream. It > doesn't actually exist. > Is not self-reference a rule? On

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
@Quentin. Of course I am a magical entity. I am God. And so are you. We are are all one and the same God dreaming infinite dreams. @Quentin @Stathis. That's where the whole magical belief in AI comes from, from believing that you are robots. Well.. breaking news: you are not! You ar

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 at 18:04, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions > such as > > if (color == white) { >print ("Is day"); > } else {

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread Quentin Anciaux
t; lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions > such as > > if (color == white) { >print ("Is day"); > } else { >print ("Is night"); > } > > There is no reason involved. Just blindly following instructions. Do >

Re: AI hype

2024-07-09 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions such as if (color == white) { print ("Is day"); } else { print ("Is night"); } There is no reason involved. Just blindly following instructions. Do people that believe in the AI believe that c

Re: AI hype

2024-07-08 Thread Terren Suydam
How has your understanding of computer programming helped you avoid being victimized by AI hype? On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:19 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > People that are victims of the AI hype neither understand compute

AI hype

2024-07-08 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
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Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-08 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
is> > kd0 > > > > > >> " >> >>> I've heard it said that although computers are coming closer to >>> becoming as smart as a human biological brain, when it comes to power >>> efficiency Biology has a massive advantage. T

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-08 Thread John Clark
gt; " > >> I've heard it said that although computers are coming closer to becoming >> as smart as a human biological brain, when it comes to power efficiency >> Biology has a massive advantage. There are even scare stories that in five >> years AI will be consum

Re: AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-07-08 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
as smart as a human biological brain, when it comes to power efficiency > Biology has a massive advantage. There are even scare stories that in five > years AI will be consuming 25% of the USA's entire electrical power and > just a few years later all of it. Well take a look at thi

(bbc) AI drives 48% increase in Google emissions

2024-07-05 Thread 'Tomasz Rola' via Everything List
So, there is a bit for improvement, I wonder what they will be saying two years from now? Bill Gates claims AI will not drive energy consumption six-fold but rather like six percent. [ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51yvz51k2xo ] -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked

Ray Kurzweil AI and What Comes Next

2024-06-28 Thread John Clark
neither the old man nor the con man said one word about AI, but one of them will be the most powerful man in the world until January 20, 2029 , and AI will by far be the most important issue any president will need to face between now and then. * The Last 6 Decades of AI — and What Comes Next | Ray K

AI chatbots at ​ just 13 watts with no performance loss

2024-06-27 Thread John Clark
I've heard it said that although computers are coming closer to becoming as smart as a human biological brain, when it comes to power efficiency Biology has a massive advantage. There are even scare stories that in five years AI will be consuming 25% of the USA's entire electrical power

An AI has found the best Iron-based high-temperature superconductor

2024-06-10 Thread John Clark
ng in moderately strong magnetic fields. An AI has found the best Iron-based high-temperature superconductor anybody has discovered, it's a compound made of the common elements Iron Barium Arsenic and Potassium. It can produce a magnetic field of over 50 Tesla, more than twice as strong as th

A list of AI papers that may be of interest...

2024-06-08 Thread Dylan Distasio
Someone asked the head of OpenAI for a list of papers to get up to speed on the state of the art in AI. It can be found at the link below for those interested, and he argues if you are able to digest all of them, you will be in a good place to understand ~90+% of the state of the art: Ilya

California is considering a bill to regulate AI

2024-05-09 Thread John Clark
*Personally I think any attempt to regulate or control AI development is doomed to failure, but like most things I see on Astra Codex Ten they closely examine all the arguments pro and con about any issue in a rational unbiased way.* *California is considering a bill to regulate AI * <ht

Fwd: AI has unblocked progress toward advanced nanotechnology

2024-04-01 Thread John Clark
-- Forwarded message - From: Eric Drexler Date: Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:40 PM Subject: AI has unblocked progress toward advanced nanotechnology To: Deep learning has enabled breakthroughs in protein engineering, opening a path to developing molecular machinery for transformative

Re: AI and Hollywood

2024-02-24 Thread Samiya Illias
ry decided to cancel his plans to build a $800 > million extension to his existing movie studio. He says: > > > "I no longer would have to travel to locations. If I wanted to be in the snow > in Colorado, it’s text. If I wanted to write a scene on the moon, it’s text, >

AI and Hollywood

2024-02-24 Thread John Clark
to be in the snow in Colorado, it’s text. If I wanted to write a scene on the moon, it’s text, and this AI can generate it like nothing. If I wanted to have two people in the living room in the mountains, I don’t have to build a set in the mountains, I don’t have to put a set on my lot. I can sit in an off

Groq, a chip optimized for AI

2024-02-21 Thread John Clark
You should take a look at the website Groq , in it you can try out both the AIs LLama and Maxtral, I think LLama is better but neither of them are as good as Gemini or GPT-4, and the Groq Company does not make either one of them because Groq is a hardware company, they are the

Money and how AI companies intend to obtain it so they can improve their product

2024-02-18 Thread John Clark
OpenAI, the company that created GPT-4, just announced a deal with the venture capital firm Thrive Capital that would value the company at at least $80 billion. Instead of using a traditional funding round the deal would allow employees to cash out their shares in OpenAI. Other AI companies are

AI used to decipher the text of 2,000-year-old charred papyrus scrolls

2024-02-07 Thread John Clark
burned up a library containing thousands of scrolls, reducing them to tightly rolled upcarbonized lumps. Nevertheless an advanced AI was able to read about 5% of the information in them. AI used to decipher the text of 2,000-year-old charred papyrus scrolls <https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-

DeepMind’s AlphaGeometry AI

2024-01-24 Thread John Clark
I found this to be absolutely amazing! I already knew that AlphaGeometry could solve geometry problems almost as well as the gold medal winners of the International Mathematical Olympiad, but until now I didn't know that the AI had learned geometry all on its own without using any human data.

Re: What company is putting the most emphasis on AI?

2024-01-22 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 4:25 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > * > Apple makes it's own chips for it's computer, the Apple M2 for example > which has equivalent power to mid-range consumer Nvidia graphic chips. > Maybe they even have specific internal versions for running AI >

This is the dangerous AI that got Sam Altman fired.

2023-12-31 Thread John Clark
This is the dangerous AI that got Sam Altman fired. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXemEDZA_Ms> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> saf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

A robot controlled by an AI

2023-12-20 Thread John Clark
Making Chat (ro)Bots John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis air -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from th

The first (but not the last) scientific discovery made by an AI

2023-12-16 Thread John Clark
The people at Google DeepMind have made a new AI they call "FunSearch", apparently an abbreviation for “searching in the function space”. It has found the most efficient algorithm known for solving the "cap set problem" which is about finding the largest set of points in

Re: Google's Gemini has dethroned GPT-4 as the top AI.

2023-12-09 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:08:16PM -0500, John Clark wrote: > A few hours ago google gave details on their AI called "Gemini" and I find > this video to be absolutely incredible! If this isn't Artificial General > Intelligence then what is? Bright (or intelligent or clever

Google's Gemini has dethroned GPT-4 as the top AI.

2023-12-06 Thread John Clark
A few hours ago google gave details on their AI called "Gemini" and I find this video to be absolutely incredible! If this isn't Artificial General Intelligence then what is? Hands-on with Gemini: Interacting with multimodal AI <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI>

Open AI whistleblower ?

2023-11-19 Thread John Clark
OpenAl Secretly Achieves AGI Internally [Whistleblower] John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis o9y -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything Li

Why was Sam Altman fired from open AI?

2023-11-19 Thread John Clark
The day before Sam Altman, the head of Open AI, was fired, he said he had "*witnessed the frontier of knowledge being pushed back four times in my experience at Open AI, and the last time was recently a couple weeks ago*". He didn't give any details about what he was talking abou

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> GPS works entirely passively on the receiver side. There would be no > external validation of the GPS coordinates.* > I know, but I don't think it would be very difficult to add that functionality. Or you could have the cell phone providers do

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 3:04 PM John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:59 PM Jason Resch wrote: > > > *> How does Apple (or whoever is signing the image and its metadata) know >> it was taken by an iphone at a particular location?* >> > > Regardless of how the picture was produced, the G

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:59 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> How does Apple (or whoever is signing the image and its metadata) know > it was taken by an iphone at a particular location?* > Regardless of how the picture was produced, the GPS timestamp created by the GPS people can verify exactly when i

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 1:28 PM John Clark wrote: > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: > > >> I don't care if Joe Blow signs it or not with his private key that's >>> on his iPhone because I have no reason to trust Mr. Blow. I want the Apple >>> Corporation and the people who run the

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: >> I don't care if Joe Blow signs it or not with his private key that's on >> his iPhone because I have no reason to trust Mr. Blow. I want the Apple >> Corporation and the people who run the GPS satellites to sign a hash >> function of the pictur

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 12:31 PM John Clark wrote: > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:54 AM Jason Resch wrote: > > >> I agree, but I think most people, myself included, would trust that >>> the entire GPS satellite system is unlikely to be part of some grand >>> conspiracy of deception, nor is it likely t

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:54 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> I agree, but I think most people, myself included, would trust that the >> entire GPS satellite system is unlikely to be part of some grand conspiracy >> of deception, nor is it likely that the Apple Corporation is stupid enough >> to do so ei

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread Jason Resch
and then signed by that key. Jason > > John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > 3ep > > > > > > >> >> Jason >> >> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 8:14 AM John Clark wrote: >&g

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
an. Or Fox News. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> 3ep > > Jason > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 8:14 AM John Clark wrote: > >> Now that AI art is so good it's becoming impossible to determine

Re: Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread Jason Resch
would not provide you with false content). Jason On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 8:14 AM John Clark wrote: > Now that AI art is so good it's becoming impossible to determine if a > photograph is real or fake, but a new open-source internet protocol > called "C2PA" may offer a solutio

Cryptography could help us figure out if a photograph is real or an AI fake

2023-11-07 Thread John Clark
Now that AI art is so good it's becoming impossible to determine if a photograph is real or fake, but a new open-source internet protocol called "C2PA" may offer a solution. If camera and smartphone makers agree to do so their products would all have a feature (which I hope you woul

AI and interest rates

2023-10-05 Thread John Clark
omy. > > > *> Yes, I agree. But I do think that making progress in > automatizing hands-on work is going to prove more difficult than letting an > AI do purely digital tasks.* Right, robots that are able to interact with the real physical world as well as humans can will take

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-05 Thread smitra
On 02-10-2023 19:06, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:26 AM smitra wrote: _> Productivity increase due to AI has yet to materialize. Systems like ChatGPT are not all that useful for the economy_ That's because GPT-4 was only introduced a few months ago, and right now

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-04 Thread John Clark
n progress, because of who Joey and Don are, I am not confident that > either could give us a conversation about LLM's, QC's, and the lot? For, > me, a wee peasant, this is the only way to fly! > > On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 07:44:34 AM EDT, John Clark < > johnkc

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-03 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
7:44:34 AM EDT, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:11 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote: > Shouldn't simply be AI, but 3D printing and perhaps, the arrival of Drexler's >nanofabricators? I agree, AI will accelerate everything.   > If it

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-03 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 6:11 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Shouldn't simply be AI, but 3D printing and perhaps, the arrival of > Drexler's nanofabricators?* I agree, AI will accelerate everything. *

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-02 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
Shouldn't simply be AI, but 3D printing and perhaps, the arrival of Drexler's nanofabricators? If it's just AI, it'll will be harnessed for the super rich alone, and the difference between the rich and the rest of humanity will vastly expand. An Elysium Eath.  On Monday

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-02 Thread 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
mitra wrote: > Productivity increase due to AI has yet to materialize. Systems like ChatGPT >are not all that useful for the economy That's because GPT-4 was only introduced a few months ago, and right now it's as stupid as it's ever going to be.  But it's inevitable t

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-02 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:26 AM smitra wrote: *> Productivity increase due to AI has yet to materialize. Systems > like ChatGPT are not all that useful for the economy* That's because GPT-4 was only introduced a few months ago, and right now it's as stupid as it's ever g

Re: AI and interest rates

2023-10-02 Thread smitra
Productivity increase due to AI has yet to materialize. Systems like ChatGPT are not all that useful for the economy as a whole, because if you are a manager or programmer and you earn $300,000 per year and you can now do more work per hour, you are not going to work less hours and take a pay

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