Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy Faith (trust) is a gift from God, you can't do anything about it except to accept or reject the gift. As a child, you didn't have to decide whether to trust your mother, you just did. And for no reason.
----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-30, 15:50:09 Subject: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:47 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Your rhetoric may work in other places where you argue with religious people I wish it had but no. Such is the awesome virulence of the religious mind virus that there is nobody to my certain knowledge in which my arguments have caused a recovery. Statistically if you are infected at a early age a cure of the religious mind parasite is almost as rare as recovery from rabies. Even exchanging one virus (like Christianity) for another parasite (like Islam) is unusual. ? ? > but I, and probably others on this list, find it rather unconvincing. If you agree with Martin Luther (and if you're a Christian you've got to) that " Reason should be destroyed in all Christians. Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding" and that we should "tear the eyes out of reason" then I'm not surprised that my rational arguments failed to convince you because no rational argument could do that. You have imposed this blindness on yourself for one reason and one reason only, mommy and daddy told you to do it from the first day you learned language; there is quite simply no more to it than that. ? John K Clark This implies some either/or logic concerning reason and faith of all people or conscious machines. Not my bet: reason and faith don't work in isolation. You want reason, then you've still got to believe in (some kind of) reason. You want (some kind of) faith, then that faith has to be plausible in a reason sense, even if irrational at the base. Unless of course, one enjoys speaking with oneself. Not that black and white, sadly. PGC ----- ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ? ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
