Hi Stephen P. King Truth or mind or numbers or life or intelligence is the ultimate primitive. They are what the spacetime universe and man emerged from ultimately. This is called downward causation.
In the beginning were the numbers and the numbers were with Mind and the numbers were Mind. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 11/15/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-03, 09:17:02 Subject: Re: The two types of truth On 11/3/2012 7:45 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Bruno Marchal and Stephen, > > http://www.angelfire.com/md2/timewarp/leibniz.html > > "Leibniz declares that there are two kinds of truth: > truths of reason [which are non-contradictory, are always either > true or false], and truths of fact [which are not always either true or > false]. > > Truths of reason are a priori, while truths of fact are a posteriori. > Truths of reason are necessary, permanent truths. Truths of fact are > contingent, empirical truths. > Both kinds of truth must have a sufficient reason. Truths of reason have their > sufficient reason in being opposed to the contradictoriness and logical > inconsistency > of propositions which deny them. Truths of fact have their sufficient reason > in > being more perfect than propositions which deny them." > Dear Roger, Is truth, either of reason or of fact, independent of the mind or in the collective minds of all that could apprehend them? -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.