Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Oct 2017, at 22:50, Brent Meeker wrote: On 10/4/2017 7:01 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: In this case the pronoun problems can be resolved by dint of the fact that the language processing areas of the brain are largely localized to one half. It's an interesting question to me whether th

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/4/2017 7:01 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: In this case the pronoun problems can be resolved by dint of the fact that the language processing areas of the brain are largely localized to one half. It's an interesting question to me whether the non-linguistic half, when separated, is self-aware

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/4/2017 5:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: It depends on what you mean by serious research. The work of well-known hypnotherapists like Milton Erickson has indeed been extensively studied and the phenomena demonstrated to a fair extent duplicated fairly reliably. There seems to be a great deal

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Brent Meeker
-brain-do-you-split-the-person If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emergentism in trouble... While the research the article refers to is interesting, I don’t see why it should have any bearing on the question of consciousness. All the same questions (about how sense data could be

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
th) Bp (left brain) Bp & p (right brain) Bp & Dt (left brain) Bp & Dt & p (right brain). Terren > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Telmo Menezes > > wrote: >> >> I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit >> supe

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Telmo, On 04 Oct 2017, at 09:09, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Oct 2017, at 15:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit superficial. https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Terren Suydam
s not. Terren > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> >> I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit >> superficial. >> >> https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person >> >> If the c

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
e, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit superficial. https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emergentism in trouble... Cheers, Tel

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
t put some weight (to me at least) to the scaling for the difference between the personal identities. Bruno David On 3 October 2017 at 14:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit superficial. https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
as a result of the surgery? Exactly, I also thought this had some parallels to the duplication experiment. Cheers, Telmo. > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> >> I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit >> superficial. >&

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
> extensively studied. Yes, for example the way many people look like they are in a trance when watching TV. Good point. I will look into Milton Erikson, thanks. > As an obvious example, think of the well-known video of the basketball game > where you're asked to count the number of passes.

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Stathis, On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 at 8:11 am, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit >> superficial. >> >> https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-spl

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Bruno, On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 03 Oct 2017, at 15:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit >> superficial. >> >> https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 at 8:11 am, Telmo Menezes wrote: > I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit > superficial. > > https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person > > If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emerge

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Oct 2017, at 15:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit superficial. https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emergentism in trouble... Really? May

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread David Nyman
, fail to notice the man in the gorilla suit in the midst of all this, despite his best attempts to attract attention! A more mundane example, also familiar to me, is being unable to recall any detail whatsoever of how you just drove from one place to another because you were thinking about somethin

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
nded well and everyone was impressed. The this is this: I feel I was playing along. Not in the sense that I was acting, but that I was in this state of mind of "why not?". It felt more like a benign social manipulation trick more than anything else. Of course, she was a beginner and I was a k

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread Terren Suydam
rticle is a bit > superficial. > > https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person > > If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emergentism in > trouble... > > Cheers, > Telmo. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread David Nyman
in fact is what we all do at least some of the time, split-brain or not, in response to environmental 'triggers' or 'priming' about whose origins we have no explicit knowledge. David On 3 October 2017 at 14:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: > I think this is quite interesting, alth

When you split the brain, do you split the person?

2017-10-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
I think this is quite interesting, although the article is a bit superficial. https://aeon.co/ideas/when-you-split-the-brain-do-you-split-the-person If the conclusions are valid, I would say they put emergentism in trouble... Cheers, Telmo. -- You received this message because you are