Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 12:17 11/04/04 +0100, Brett Hall (FOR-LIST) wrote: How? (I was saying: snipped More shortly: if we are living in a massive computer then we are living in arithmetic-platonia, and by the church thesis and other computer-science theoretical constraints, this is testable.) Actually this is

RE: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
6) This shows that if we are in a massive computer running in a universe, then (supposing we know it or believe it) to predict the future of any experiment we decide to carry one (for example testing A or B) we need to take into account all reconstitutions at any time of the computer

RE: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-13 Thread Hal Finney
Ben Goertzel writes: So, in my view, we are faced with a couple different ways of introducing the arbitrary assumptions needed to justify induction: 1) make an arbitrary assumption that the apparently real physical universe is real 2) make an arbitrary assumption that simpler hypotheses are

Re: Are we simulated by some massive computer?

2004-04-13 Thread George Levy
Bruno Marchal wrote: Put in another way, *either* the massive computer simulates the exact laws of physics (exact with comp = the laws extractible from the measure on all 1-computations) in which case we belong to it but in that case we belong also to all its copy in Platonia, and our