RE: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-16 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Peter Jones writes (quoting SP): OK, but then you have the situation whereby a very complex, and to our mind disorganised, conscious computer might be designed and built by aliens, then discovered by us after the aliens have become extinct and their design blueprints, programming manuals

Re: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 16-sept.-06, à 10:10, Colin Geoffrey Hales a écrit : 5) Re a fatal test for the Turing machine? Give it exquisite novelty by asking it to do science on an unknown area of the natural world. Proper science. It will fail because it does not know there is an outside world. And you

Re: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-16 Thread 1Z
Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: Q. What is it like to be a human? It is like being a mind. There is information delivered into the mind by the action of brain material which bestows on the human intrinsic knowledge about the natural world outside the humanin the form of phenomenal

Re: Russell's book

2006-09-16 Thread Periklis Akritidis
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: This is the most immediate response of people to the QTI idea: even if it's true, what do I care if other versions of me survive in the multiverse if I'm going to die? According to QTI you are not going to die in any universe because there are no dead ends in

Re: Russell's book

2006-09-16 Thread Periklis Akritidis
David Nyman wrote: Some of us may recall the tontine, invented in the 17th century by a Neapolitan banker called Lorenzo de Tonti as an investment scheme, but now illegal, in the US and UK at least. The only beneficiary is the last survivor, who scoops the pool. A QTI tontine would presumably

Re: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-16 Thread 1Z
Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: Q. What is it like to be a human? It is like being a mind. There is information delivered into the mind by the action of brain material which bestows on the human intrinsic knowledge about the natural world outside the

Re: computationalism and supervenience

2006-09-16 Thread Brent Meeker
Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: ... COLIN: Hi a bunch of points... 1) Re paper.. it is undergoing review and growing.. The point of the paper is to squash the solipsism argument ...in particular the specific flavour of it that deals with 'other minds' and as it has (albeit tacitly)