On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:57 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 7/19/2014 10:38 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:11 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:51 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that language constructs the self (or perhaps more precisely that
using language allowed us to create the concept of a self as one amongst many
linguistic concepts).
I don't grok this thing of the self 'evolving' like
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On 7/19/2014 10:08 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 7/19/2014 10:11 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 5:22 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Are you suggesting that language, or our superb mastery of tool-making had
little or no effect on how our own human “self” evolved?
Chris
Not on how it evolved after it
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On 20 Jul 2014, at 5:22 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
On 20 July 2014 18:37, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:51 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that language constructs the self (or perhaps more precisely
that using language allowed us to create the concept of a self as one
amongst many linguistic
On 19 Jul 2014, at 22:08, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
Well sure... life is more pleasant when people have a live and let
live attitude. As you point out respect needs mutuality. Respecting
an institution that does not respect anyone that does not adopt
their dogma is
On 20 Jul 2014, at 02:21, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God
hallucination, there are technic for that (fasting, sleep
deprivation, magic mushrooms, LSD, salvia, near death experiences,
etc.).
On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Now, if you are interested in experiencing the (rather common) God
hallucination, there are technic for that
On 20 Jul 2014, at 05:26, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com
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I would describe it as a societal paradigm... this unspoken rule
that all should respect religion.
Yes, but why does religion and only
On 20 Jul 2014, at 05:26, Kim Jones wrote:
A good thinking habit to cultivate is simplicity. Try and make it as
simple as you can.
Consciousness comes in two flavours (that I know of):
1. I know
2. I know that I know. (Presumably something to do with remembering
that you knew.)
I
On 20 Jul 2014, at 06:48, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/19/2014 9:25 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 1:44 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Kim Jones
kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Consciousness comes in two flavours (that I know of):
1. I
On 7/19/2014 11:37 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:51 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that language constructs the self (or perhaps more precisely that
using language allowed us to create the concept of a self as one amongst many
linguistic concepts).
I don't grok
On 20 Jul 2014, at 07:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/19/2014 10:38 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
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On 20 Jul 2014, at 08:13, Kim Jones wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:57 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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On 20 Jul 2014, at 08:37, Kim Jones wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 3:51 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that language constructs the self (or perhaps more
precisely that using language allowed us to create the concept of a
self as one amongst many linguistic concepts).
I
Have you read Julian Jaynes The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown
of the Bicameral Mind?
Great book! Even if they are impossible to verify in detail, Jaynes's ideas
are a terrific stimulus to thinking about both the function and the origin
of consciousness (in the 3p sense). By the way, I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=uhRhtFFhNzQ
This is a TED video of David Chalmers on the Hard Problem. His basic ideas
will be pretty well known to most of us on this list although
interestingly, he now seems less equivocal about panpsychism than in The
Conscious Mind. He
On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:58, David Nyman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=uhRhtFFhNzQ
This is a TED video of David Chalmers on the Hard Problem. His basic
ideas will be pretty well known to most of us on this list although
interestingly, he now seems less
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Now, if you are interested in experiencing
On 20 Jul 2014, at 16:32, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
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On 20 Jul 2014, at 03:00, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
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On 7/14/2014 7:46 AM,
Have you taken it interstate yet, over 500 miles, summer vacation movie style
yet?
It will easily run at 85mph on the freeway with some speed in reserve. It
doesn't acclerate as well as my VW Passat 1.8T did, but it's adequate.
Maintenance - dunno; hasn't needed any
Does no one have any comment / answer / information on this?
On 20 July 2014 15:38, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
We've just been watching Particle Fever - a documentary about the LHC
(from 2007 to the discovery of the Higgs boson last year). In it, at least
a couple of people (Monica
My only comment is that SUSY is associated with string theory, not MW.
String theory includes QFT as a low energy equivalent w/o SUSY
and QFT does not predict MW. But then I am just another dummie.
Richard
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Does no one have any
Also 10^500 is the number of unique windings thru 500 topo holes each
winding having 10 quantum states,
but in 6 dimensions, not 11.
I also do not understand why SUSY would rule out MW.
Richard
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 6:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Does no one have any comment /
Hopefully someone with a better understanding of these things will comment,
but I believe it has to do with what physicists call the hierarchy
problem, here are some links for your perusal:
http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/the-hierarchy-problem/
Thanks! I will perhaps have more to say / ask once I've looked at those.
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To a first approximation this appears to have something to do with the
relative weakness of gravity compared to the weak force. This is, I gather,
highly unexpected because it involves some delicate cancellations
(presumably delicate to about 32 decimal places). And I also gather this is
connected
To a second approximation, the afore-mentioned cancellation can be made
very exact by giving each particle a partner which exactly balances its
contribution (or words to that effect). These are the superpartners, and
give a fermion for each known boson and vice versa. Since fermions and
bosons
Or even a broken symmetry.
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But they cannot cancel to high precision if the symmetry is broken
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:17 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Or even a broken symmetry.
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