On 16 Apr 2016, at 01:46, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 16/04/2016 12:20 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Apr 2016, at 14:31, Bruce Kellett wrote:
It is interesting that you have not answered my question about
what exactly you mean by 'counterfactual definiteness' so that we
know what you mean
On 15 Apr 2016, at 19:23, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
>>> nowhere is there any action at a distance, nor any
indeterminacy or event without "cause".
>> That would only be true from the viewpoint of somebody
"A and B perform their measurements at spacelike separation, but each
chooses the measurement orientation outside the light cone of the other.
There are four possible combinations of results, corresponding to four
worlds in the MWI: |+>|+'>, |+>|-'>, |->|+'>, and |->|-'>. Since each
observer has a
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>> >>
>> Alice and Bob meet
>> in 4 different worlds because there are 4 different ways their lab
>> books could be.
>>
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> >
> There is only one Alice and one Bob in the one world I am talking about.
>
There is
Unless there is some physical ionteraction tween local closely related
universes, its all bupkas, or cyhers, Its a breath taking concept in the hug
everett sense of things, but we might as well be discussing harry potter or
batman worlds. I love the imaginaton, but it seems useless to our
On 4/17/2016 4:34 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 18/04/2016 5:25 am, Jesse Mazer wrote:
"A and B perform their measurements at spacelike separation, but each
chooses the measurement orientation outside the light cone of the
other. There are four possible combinations of results, corresponding
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
>
> The future light cones of the observers will overlap at a time determined
> by their initial separation, regardless of whether they send signals to
> each other or not.
>
Of course, I never meant to suggest
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> >>
>> It's not just that you don't have to, you CAN'T do theoretical physics
>> from a viewpoint that CAN NOT EXIST because the result would be
>> ridiculous and useless.
>>
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> >
> It does not exist physically, but it
On 18/04/2016 10:21 am, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett >wrote:
>
Consider the following: Alice and Bob perform their experiments on
the entangled pair and record the results (magnet orientation
On 18/04/2016 10:11 am, Jesse Mazer wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Kellett
> wrote:
The future light cones of the observers will overlap at a time
determined by their initial separation, regardless of whether
On 18/04/2016 11:28 am, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 PM, Bruce Kellett >wrote:
>>
Alice and Bob meet
in 4 different worlds because there are 4 different ways
their lab books could be.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett wrote:
>>
>> There is only one Alice and one Bob
>> in every world that I am talking about too, but there are 4 different
>> worlds, and in each world they observe 4 unique particles; and 4 different
>> yous are observing the
>>
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 Bruce Kellett wrote:
>>
>> assuming A and B were different to begin with and assuming the MWI is
>> correct, the universe splits into 4 strands with a observer in each one.
>
>
>
> Sometimes: sometimes only two strands.
>
If you and I
On 18/04/2016 5:25 am, Jesse Mazer wrote:
"A and B perform their measurements at spacelike separation, but each
chooses the measurement orientation outside the light cone of the
other. There are four possible combinations of results, corresponding
to four worlds in the MWI: |+>|+'>, |+>|-'>,
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> Consider the following: Alice and Bob perform their experiments on the
> entangled pair and record the results (magnet orientation and outcome) in
> their lab books. They then go on with other things. Some weeks later
On 18/04/2016 2:53 pm, Jesse Mazer wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Bruce Kellett
> wrote:
On 18/04/2016 10:11 am, Jesse Mazer wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Kellett
On 18/04/2016 12:26 pm, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett > wrote:
>>
There is only one Alice and one Bob
in every world that I am talking about too, but there are 4
different
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> On 18/04/2016 10:11 am, Jesse Mazer wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Bruce Kellett
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The future light cones of the observers will overlap at a time
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