RE: More on qualia of consciousness and occam's razor

2004-03-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
> ; you might even be able to "read" the brain, scanning for neuronal > activity and deducing correctly that the subject sees a red > flash. However, > it is impossible to know what it feels like to see a red flash unless you > have the actual experience yourself. > > So I maintain that there

Re: Black Holes and Gravity Carrier

2004-03-02 Thread Ron McFarland
On 28 Feb 2004 at 15:13, John M wrote: > Dear Ron, > allow me to reply to SOME parts of your long post (including my > remarks and your remarks on them) by just quoting the appropriate > The "orig. message" is available on the list. John M Agreed, let's try to save some bandwidth where possib

Re: Tegmark is too "physics-centric"

2004-03-02 Thread Russell Standish
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 12:28:04PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > >As I understand it, COMP refers to the conjunction of: > > > >1) Arithmetic realism > >2) Church-Turing thesis > >3) Survivability of consciousness under duplication > > > > ...and annihilation of the "original" (if not it cou

Re: Tegmark is too "physics-centric"

2004-03-02 Thread Stephen Paul King
Dear Bruno, - Original Message - From: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: Re: Tegmark is too "physics-centric" > At 09:14 02/03/04 +1100, Russell Standish wrote: snip > >As I understand it, COMP refers to the conjun

Re: Tegmark is too "physics-centric"

2004-03-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
At 09:14 02/03/04 +1100, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:00:30PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > comp assumes only that the sequence 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ... "lives" in > Platonia. 3-person time apparantly does not appear. 1-person time > appears through the S4Grz logic. > Fa