Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Saibal Mitra
- Original Message - From: Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 09:23 AM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Brent Meeker writes: I think it is one of the most profound things about consciousness that

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno Marchal writes: Yes,sharingthememoryis*not*thesameashavingtheoriginal experience,butthisappliestorecallingone'sownpastaswell. Areyoureallysure?Whentwopeoplesharememories,theycanonly sharethirdpersoninformation,whichwilltriggertheirrespective unsharablefirstpersonidentities/memories.

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-juin-06, à 15:19, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : x-tad-bigger  /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger I have the subjective experience of being a person persisting through time because I feel that I know in a 1st person way what I did in the past. If I really did know in a 1st person way what I did in

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Brent Meeker writes: I think it is one of the most profound things about consciousness that observer moments don't *need* anything to connect them other than their content. They are linked like the novels in a series, not like the carriages of a train. It

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Saibal Mitra wrote: - Original Message - From: Stathis Papaioannou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 09:23 AM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Brent Meeker writes: I think it is one of the most profound things

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: Bruno Marchal writes: ... This is not to say that my mind can or should overcome [Lee Corbin disagrees on the should] the deeply ingrained belief or illusion that I am a unique, one-track individual living my life from start to finish, Here

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread John M
--- Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unless the final remark with Saibal/s signature underneath comes from him): ... Stathis wrote: ... I would say that the 1st person experience is *not* an illusion in any sense of the word. It is the very opposite, in a way: the most real thing,

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Brent Meeker
John M wrote: --- Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unless the final remark with Saibal/s signature underneath comes from him): ... Stathis wrote: ... I would say that the 1st person experience is *not* an illusion in any sense of the word. It is the very opposite, in a way: the

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-06-30 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Hi John, Le Vendredi 30 Juin 2006 21:06, John M a écrit : An interesting observation from Saibal that increasing the info-input to one's brain kills person(ality?). I would not say dead, rather 'changed' as into some different one. (It is a gradual change, death is being thought of as