Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Colin Hales wrote: Hi, RUSSEL All I can say is that I don't understand your distinction. You have introduced a new term necessary primitive - what on earth is that? But I'll let this pass, it probably isn't important. COLIN Oh no you don't!! It matters. Bigtime... Take away the

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Hi Quentin, What is the kind of universe we must live in if the electromagnetic field structure of the brain delivers qualia? A. It is NOT the universe depicted by the qualia (atoma, molecules, cells...). It is the universe whose innate capacity to deliver qualia is taken advantage of when

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Jun 17, 6:47 am, Colin Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Magical emergence is when but claim Y exists but you can't identify an X. Such as: Take away the X: No qualia but thenyou claim qualia result from 'information complexity' or 'computation' or 'function' and you fail to say what

Re: Asifism

Yes that is the issue and I don't think I read all the postings on that thread at the time. SP [Feb 21]: 'It is a complicated issue' MP: Yep! SP: 'So how do I know I'm not that special kind of zombie or partial zombie now? I feel absolutely sure that I am not but then I would think that,

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Jun 17, 2:33 am, Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're obviously suggesting single neurons have qualia. Forgive me for being a little sceptical of this suggestion... Russell, this is daft! Surely the argument is getting completely lost in the terminology here. What on earth

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Dear Brent, If you had the most extravagent MRI machine in history, which trapped complete maps of all electrons, neuclei and any photons and then plotted them out - you would have a 100% complete, scientifically acquired publishable description and in that description would be absolutely no

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

Colin Hales wrote: Dear Brent, If you had the most extravagent MRI machine in history, which trapped complete maps of all electrons, neuclei and any photons and then plotted them out - you would have a 100% complete, scientifically acquired publishable description and in that description

Re: How would a computer know if it were conscious?

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:47:19PM +1000, Colin Hales wrote: Hi, RUSSEL All I can say is that I don't understand your distinction. You have introduced a new term necessary primitive - what on earth is that? But I'll let this pass, it probably isn't important. COLIN Oh no you don't!!