Re: Some thoughts from Grandma

2007-07-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 06-juil.-07, à 19:24, David Nyman a écrit : On 06/07/07, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure that numbers are real in the sense that I am real, unless you are talking of the third person I. Then you are as real as your (unknown) Godel-number. In general, when people

Re: Penrose and algorithms

2007-07-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 07-juil.-07, à 16:39, LauLuna a écrit : On Jul 7, 12:59 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 06-juil.-07, à 14:53, LauLuna a écrit : But again, for any set of such 'physiological' axioms there is a corresponding equivalent set of 'conceptual' axioms. There is all the same a

Re: Some thoughts from Grandma

2007-07-08 Thread David Nyman
On 08/07/07, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how you could go automatically from a postulate to something real. That can happens, but here the comp hyp puts non trivial restrictions: when that happens, we cannot be sure it happens. Hmm Well, if you 'postulate'

Re: Justifying the Theory of Everything

2007-07-08 Thread Wei Dai
Jason wrote: I have seen two main justifications on this list for the everything ensemble, the first comes from information theory which says the information content of everything is zero (or close to zero). The other is mathematicalism/arithmatical realism which suggests mathematical truth

Re: Justifying the Theory of Everything

2007-07-08 Thread Brent Meeker
Wei Dai wrote: Jason wrote: I have seen two main justifications on this list for the everything ensemble, the first comes from information theory which says the information content of everything is zero (or close to zero). The other is mathematicalism/arithmatical realism which suggests

Re: Justifying the Theory of Everything

2007-07-08 Thread Russell Standish
Jason wrote: I have seen two main justifications on this list for the everything ensemble, the first comes from information theory which says the information content of everything is zero (or close to zero). The other is mathematicalism/arithmatical realism which suggests

Re: Some thoughts from Grandma

2007-07-08 Thread David Nyman
On Jul 6, 2:56 pm, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general, when people use the word I they refer to their first person, or to first person plural feature of their physical body. It is a unexpected (by me) discovery that quanta belongs to that sharable first person view (making the