Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2008-12-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Kim and all, On 23 Dec 2008, at 11:50, Kim Jones wrote: Bruno, things are starting to hang together in my new digital brain (bright yellow) Good. you wrote the plan: --- A) UDA (Universal Dovetailer Argument) 1) I explain that if you are a machine, you

Re: KIM 2.1

2008-12-24 Thread John Mikes
Bruno and Kim, enjoyable discours by two math.-ly impaired minds (excuse me Kim!) - I met several youngsters (up to 70 y.o.) who simply had no 'pitch' to math - yet were good smart artists, even business(wo)men, parents and technicians (not so with politicians, they are not what I call 'smart').

Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

2008-12-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Dec 2008, at 16:41, Günther Greindl wrote: Kim, Bruno, Not at all. You have already done the first and last leap of faith of the reasoning when accepting the digital brain at the first step. I am aware that you are not aware of that, because in the reply you seem to believe

Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

2008-12-24 Thread Abram Demski
Bruno, I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that is governed by rules and has a definite description. Such machines are of course not necessarily computable; oracle machines and so on can be logically