Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-04 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/5/4 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: in the same way a message is obscured if encoded with a one-time pad that is subsequently destroyed and forgotten. In fact, even with the store-bought computer the computation is obscured if there are no intelligent beings around who can understand

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-04 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/5/4 daddycay...@msn.com: I agree that religion, and a lot of other stuff, produces a lot of fake certainty.  Not good.  So that implies that atheism is the way to go? But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human person like us could relate to him/her as a person,

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 May 2009, at 17:09, John Mikes wrote: I would like to go along with Maudlin's point emphasized in Bruno's text below, adding that causal structure is restricted to the limited model of which we CAN choose likely 'causes' within our perceived reality, while the unlimited