A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social consequiences. When I
say A. I don´t only say A is true. I say also that because A is true
and you must accept it because a set of my socially reputated fellows of me
did something to affirm it, you must believe it, and, more important, I
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/5/2013 9:46 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:06 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/4/2013 1:24 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:49 PM, meekerdb
Hi Roger,
Hi Telmo Menezes
Thanks. But can such biomolecular structures
develop into a living cell ?
Current mainstream Biology believes that's the case. There isn't a complete
model yet, but many pieces of the puzzle are already known. The current
developmental theory is based on
Life and death in a world of good and evil
Although God is all-powerful in Heaven, where there is no death,
down here, where death is ever present, God must try to pilot us
through sometimes rough waters, in which his options are more
limited. Down here, good and evil -- life and death--are
Hi meekerdb
I'm sorry that Christ does not measure up to your liberal standards.
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1/6/2013
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Hi meekerdb
Materialists can't consistently accept inextended structures and
functions such as quantum fields--or if they do, they aren't materialists.
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1/6/2013
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Hi Alberto G. Corona
Sounds like fascism to me.
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1/6/2013
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Your robot do not have time to know the true truth. He would not speculate
on the nature of his programmer, or why he is here. At least until the
problems of survival are solved by means of a stable collaboration. Even
so, he never could have the opportunity to know the programmer. He don´t
know
On 04 Jan 2013, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind,
is not extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
Like numbers, programs and other digital machines.
Well, even non digital
On 04 Jan 2013, at 19:10, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 26.12.2012 13:45 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 12:45, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have recently seen a paper on a Physarum machine
A Adamatzky Physarum machine: implementation of a
Kolmogorov-Uspensky machine on a
On 04 Jan 2013, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Don't take this too much literally.
I have never believed in any notion like charity, or distribution
of wealth. It *looks* nice, but it generates poverty.
Oops, too late! I already gave my kids several
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Even people who have no sense of humor can deduce that other people do
have it,
Would they if only 0.001% of the population had a sense of humor?
Yes, because unlike psi it would be easily repeatable, if one person who
On 1/6/2013 4:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 1/6/2013 6:56 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social consequiences.
When I say A. I don´t only say A is true. I say also that because
A is true and you must accept it because a set of my socially
reputated fellows of me did something to affirm it,
On 1/6/2013 8:39 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Alberto G. Corona
Sounds like fascism to me.
How so?
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On 04 Jan 2013, at 17:44, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind, is
not extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
Like numbers, programs and other
On 1/6/2013 5:47 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Because this is a form of guided question, I will not hide my cards and I will say my
conclussions:
Once some actor (call it robot) collaborates with my robot I would mark it as faitful.
therefore I will believe in what it says.
If I detect that
Hi Craig Weinberg
Sorry, everybody, I was snookered into believing that they had really
accomplished the impossible.
The killer argument against that is that the brain has no sync signals to
generate
the raster lines.
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1/6/2013
Forever is a long time,
On 1/6/2013 11:37 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 2:17 PM, meekerdb wrote:
So no physicists since Schrodinger are materialists. So materialism can't very well be
scientific dogma as you keep asserting.
Brent
Hi Brent,
I think that you are taking as evidence the lack of overt
On 1/6/2013 3:14 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 11:37 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 2:17 PM, meekerdb wrote:
So no physicists since Schrodinger are materialists. So materialism
can't very well be scientific dogma as you keep asserting.
Brent
Hi Brent,
I think that you are
I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists give up
when things get complicated. The dynamic of groups stability and
cooperation and their mechanisms is an field which has not even started.
They do not study the vital role of public cult and rites, for example that
are
Hi Telmo Menezes
Could be, but so far no success.
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Hi meekerdb
Not all physicists are materialists, or if they are, they are inconsistent
if they deal with quantum physics, which is nonphysical.
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1/6/2013
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On 1/6/2013 12:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists give up when things
get complicated. The dynamic of groups stability and cooperation and their mechanisms is
an field which has not even started. They do not study the vital role of
On 1/6/2013 12:57 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Sorry, I obviously missed the point of your quote from Matthew.
What is your point ?
That the Christian Bible, and by extension fundamentalist Christianity, is a cartoonish
world view which no thinking person would take as a guide for
On 1/6/2013 12:59 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
quantum physics, which is nonphysical
A new record. You've contradicted yourself in only five words.
Brent
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On 1/6/2013 3:49 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The word must implies forcible persuasion.
Hi,
But the use of force to persuade is not the essence of fascism.
Fascism is a governing system where the population can own property
privately but the use of said property is
On 1/6/2013 3:52 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I think what was meant was the inverse, namely that
no consistent materialist can believe in quantum mechanics.
Ah. OK. I would like to see an explanation of this claim if I had
the time for such minutia.
--
Onward!
Stephen
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You've obviously never watched one of Sheldrake's
lectures.
Watched, listened, and even read some things a few years back. I sincerely
tried to open my mind, but when I realized I was forcing
The expression Socila construction of reality is an expression that hold
any kind or relativism. This is nor that. This is a algorithmical study
founded in game theory, and resource optimization with a narrow set of
possibilities and a harwired nature of any social being (the ROM element).
Social
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:49 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The word must implies forcible persuasion.
Hi,
But the use
On 1/6/2013 3:19 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:49 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The word must implies forcible persuasion.
Hi,
But the use of force to persuade is not the essence of
Roger,
I hate to keep harping on this
but aren't BECs unextended
in space, as you put it.
And if so, life and its machinery
could be embedded a BEC
even if the BEC were extended.
BECs have the kind of magical properties
that suggest that they are outside spacetime.
Richard
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