Re: NDE's Proved Real?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, On 14 Apr 2013, at 00:10, John Mikes wrote: Bruno, I stand corrected (redface): I had a closed mind for NDE considered only as the observable experience on the 'patient' in a dying-like situation. Your airplane-example opened my eyes: it may refer to experiences when someone (a

Re: Can anyone explain this ?

2013-04-15 Thread Alberto G. Corona
This is thread is completely off-topic, but anyway: The evolutionary roots of envy and social justice: http://www.scribd.com/doc/93890864/Punitive-sentiment-against-successful-individuals-as-a-psychological-device-for-anti-hidden-free-riders-in-ancestral-hunter-gatherers 2013/4/14 Craig

Freedom From Choice is Easy

2013-04-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
From the Devo song Freedom of Choice: In ancient Rome There was a poem About a dog Who found two bones He picked at one He licked the other He went in circles He dropped dead Freedom of choice Is what you got Freedom from choice Is what you want Thinking about the relationship

Re: Can anyone explain this ?

2013-04-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:56:31 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: This is thread is completely off-topic, but anyway: The evolutionary roots of envy and social justice:

Re: The world is in the brain

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Apr 2013, at 23:45, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 15/04/2013, at 3:27 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: But of course that is not the case, as comp might be false, logically. Indeed, it can be shown refutable, and if the evidences were that physics is Newtonian, I would

Re: The world is in the brain

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Apr 2013, at 02:38, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:27:24 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Apr 2013, at 00:05, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:47:47 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Apr 2013, at 21:18, Craig Weinberg wrote: With

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Apr 2013, at 19:02, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Bruno, Unless we can explain how the *some first person plural indeterminacy* obtains, it does not give a satisfactory explanation of 'shared experience'. Yes. Basically, getting the fits person plural is the same as getting the

Re: Losing Control

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Apr 2013, at 19:21, Richard Ruquist wrote: But Bruno, if comp only produces what is already known to science, how do we know that comp is responsible? String theory has this problem We never know such thing. We can only propose a theory, derive facts, and verify them. If the

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi Bruno, Interleaving On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Apr 2013, at 19:02, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Bruno, Unless we can explain how the *some first person plural indeterminacy* obtains, it does not give a satisfactory explanation of

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Apr 2013, at 15:27, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Bruno, Interleaving On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Apr 2013, at 19:02, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Bruno, Unless we can explain how the *some first person plural indeterminacy*

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread John Clark
Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: The theory of evolution as proposed by Darwin is non-reductionist. It relies on the concept of natural selection, which is an holistic concept. That is entirely false. Natural selection is local, not just spatially but temporally as well. Evolution

Re: Scientific journals

2013-04-15 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: embody the Aquarian tension of revolutionary rationalism. symbolized by the Saturnian-Uranian co-'rulership' of Aquarius. [...] With their interesting combination of Mars in Libra squaring their Moon and trining

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Apr 2013, at 17:39, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Telmo, I can only give you my opinion. Thanks Richard. You are of course referring to the double slit experiment where one photon can follow at least two different

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:15, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Apr 11,

Re: Scientific journals

2013-04-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, April 15, 2013 12:01:37 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: embody the Aquarian tension of revolutionary rationalism. symbolized by the Saturnian-Uranian co-'rulership' of Aquarius. [...] With

Re: Losing Control

2013-04-15 Thread Richard Ruquist
Not true. GR and QM derived experimental results that were not known to science before hand. I suggest that comp has to do that otherwise it will remain a curious metaphysics but not accepted as knowledge. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 14 Apr 2013,

Re: The world is in the brain

2013-04-15 Thread meekerdb
On 4/15/2013 5:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: There are other reason as well. A Newtonian physics uses action at a distance, arguably a non comp phenomenon. Why would comp not accommodate action at a distance? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: NDE's Proved Real?

2013-04-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Apr 2013, at 17:11, Telmo Menezes wrote: The web of trust comes from PhDs from accredited Universities. That is the deal that everyone accepts. If only that was true. Not all academies play the rule. Separation of power leaks so much (since Nixon, more or less), that even academies

Re: NDE's Proved Real?

2013-04-15 Thread Spudboy100
In a message dated 4/14/2013 1:07:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marc...@ulb.ac.be writes: NDE might helps people in stress situation, of after being wounded. Given the fact that humans seems to fight since a long time, that might convey some evolutionary role. This does not logically

Re: Scientific journals

2013-04-15 Thread meekerdb
On 4/15/2013 9:01 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: embody the Aquarian tension of revolutionary rationalism. symbolized by the Saturnian-Uranian co-'rulership' of Aquarius. [...] With

Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

2013-04-15 Thread meekerdb
On 4/15/2013 10:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 12 Apr 2013, at 17:39, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Telmo, I can only give you my opinion. Thanks Richard. You are of course referring to the double slit experiment where one

Re: Scientific journals

2013-04-15 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, April 15, 2013 3:48:17 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 4/15/2013 9:01 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: embody the Aquarian tension of revolutionary rationalism. symbolized by the Saturnian-Uranian

Re: The world is in the brain

2013-04-15 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 02:41:19PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: You cannot be more right on this. It has been part of my job to show that if the brain is Turing emulable, then the interior experience is not at all isomorphic to brain activity. It is already done explicitely in step seven