Re: Is it my imagination, or is it getting hot in here?

2015-02-06 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: I believe India was supposed to making moves towards using thorium reactors? Does anyone know if that is ongoing or has stalled? India is interested in Thorium because it has little Uranium but has the fourth largest Thorium deposits in the

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

2015-02-06 Thread PGC
On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 7:27:25 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Feb 2015, at 19:30, meekerdb wrote: On 2/5/2015 6:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Feb 2015, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 2/4/2015 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Feb 2015, at 20:13, Jason Resch

Re: Is consciousness epiphenomenal?

2015-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Feb 2015, at 20:56, meekerdb wrote: On 2/5/2015 11:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Feb 2015, at 01:16, meekerdb wrote: On 2/4/2015 10:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: With computationalism, physics is not causally closed, Even with computationalism it seems physics is causally closed

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

2015-02-06 Thread David Nyman
On 6 February 2015 at 04:20, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/5/2015 5:57 PM, David Nyman wrote: On 6 February 2015 at 01:01, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: You seem intent on defining terms in order to dimiss them. For example, why is taking mental to be re-description

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

2015-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Feb 2015, at 19:25, meekerdb wrote: On 2/5/2015 6:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ... To simplify, you can consider a competence as an ability to follow a program P_i or to compute the corresponding partial or total function phi_i. Learning can then be described as the inverse:

Re: What over 170 people think about machines that think

2015-02-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Feb 2015, at 19:30, meekerdb wrote: On 2/5/2015 6:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Feb 2015, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 2/4/2015 11:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Feb 2015, at 20:13, Jason Resch wrote: I agree with John. If consciousness had no third-person observable