Re: A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 Pierz wrote: ​> ​ > Here's something that bothers me when I try to think of the brain too much > as a computer. How would I teach a computer the notion of infinity? > ​A computer already knows about some integers, and it knows how to find the successor to some integers; it'

Re: A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread Pierz
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:08:35 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote: > > Just ask yourself how you grasp the notion of infinity. It's not by > dividing by zero. It's by using "and then..." Sure. It's a concept even very young children can understand - probably almost as easily as zero. "There are

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-07-13 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote: But I do not accept “comp”. > > > You do accept comp by definition of comp. > ​"Comp" has a definition?? That's news to me, it's certainly not in any dictionary and from your usage ​I gathered it was just a sequence of ASCII characters that you liked to

Re: A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Jul 2015, at 18:08, meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Just ask yourself how you grasp the notion of infinity. It's not by dividing by zero. It's by using "and then..." There's no obstacle in principle to having a computer reason about the consequences of having an axiom of succession.

Re: A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread meekerdb
Just ask yourself how you grasp the notion of infinity. It's not by dividing by zero. It's by using "and then..." There's no obstacle in principle to having a computer reason about the consequences of having an axiom of succession. It doesn't need to have an infinite memory capacity to do s

Re: A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Jul 2015, at 15:29, Pierz wrote: Here's something that bothers me when I try to think of the brain too much as a computer. How would I teach a computer the notion of infinity? That's an excellent question. Logic put some light on this, by showing that the notion of "finite" (and t

Re: ISIS The Start of World War III?

2015-07-13 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
My issue is that yes, at this point ISIS seem to present no domestic danger, however leaders of the word have continuously underestimated their successes. Italy may be their next target, or Spain in a Re-Conquista of their own. Moreover, this ideology is not in its actions, alone in the Islamic

A curious puzzle - teaching a computer to understand infinity

2015-07-13 Thread Pierz
Here's something that bothers me when I try to think of the brain too much as a computer. How would I teach a computer the notion of infinity? In simple terms, how can I represent infinity in a computer program? All a computer knows about infinity is 'stack overflow' (or simply integer overflow

Re: A riddle for John Clark

2015-07-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Jul 2015, at 19:43, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > ​> ​You know in Helsinki with certainty (accepting comp But I do not accept “comp”. You do accept comp by definition of comp. You might believe there is a flaw in comp => "reversal", bu