Re: A profound lack of profundity (and soon "the starting point")

2017-09-16 Thread Terren Suydam
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 9:54 PM, John Clark  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at  Terren Suydam  wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>> Hope you and yours came through the storm ok.
>>
>
> ​Thanks, we're OK, the storm weakened to 90 mph from 180 when it hit us,
> that was bad but 90 only  produces 1/8th of the force 180 mph would have.​
>
>
That's such a John Clark response, and I mean that affectionately. Glad
you're ok.


> ​> ​
>> Since the question is about the future, there's no useful distinction
>> between a question about "where I will be" and "where I expect to be".
>>
>
>
> ​
> A question about what I expect is never gibberish, ​a question about what
> will be might or might not be.
>
>

I'm only concerned with the perspective of the person about to enter the
duplicator. That person can only answer in terms of what they expect to
happen. "Where I will be" is not a statement about reality, it's a
statement about what's in the subject's head.

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Re: A profound lack of profundity (and soon "the starting point")

2017-09-16 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at  Terren Suydam  wrote:

​> ​
> Hope you and yours came through the storm ok.
>

​Thanks, we're OK, the storm weakened to 90 mph from 180 when it hit us,
that was bad but 90 only  produces 1/8th of the force 180 mph would have.​

​> ​
> Since the question is about the future, there's no useful distinction
> between a question about "where I will be" and "where I expect to be".
>


​​
Santa Claus's workshop
​ is most certainly where I expect to be, if the question is not gibberish
​time will tell if my expectation turned out to be correct or not. Time
will also tell if the question turned out to be gibberish or not; if after
the event a answer STILL doesn't exist then that can only be because there
was no question in the first place, there was only words and a question
mark.


> ​> ​
> Both questions are about what you expect.
>

​A question about what I expect is never gibberish, ​a question about what
will be might or might not be.


> ​> ​
> if you are secretly duplicated
> ​ [...]​
>

​Then I will have have been deceived and as a result will draw erroneous
conclusions.   ​


​ John K Clark​

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Re: math and the treal world

2017-09-16 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 04:42:56PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> The universal machine put some mess in the arithmetical Heaven, and
> its soul is teared apart by its eight (4 + 4*infinity actually)
> points of view possible.

What the infinity doing here?


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