Re: How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:18 PM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: ​> ​ > Nope, no thanks. The problem is that I suspect that even if you download > information from a brain into a AI system that while it might outwardly > appear to be the person inside the machine, the

Re: Mind Uploading

2018-03-13 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
We shall rule the stars! -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2018 9:10 pm Subject: Mind Uploading ​ A new company called " ​ Nectome" was started just today to use revolutionary new

Re: How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Soon the rich will be rushing to Alcor! -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2018 5:21 pm Subject: How to live forever ​ Woody Allen said "I don't want to achieve immortality through my

Re: How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Nope, no thanks. The problem is that I suspect that even if you download information from a brain into a AI system that while it might outwardly appear to be the person inside the machine, the person in fact no long exists. At least I suspect this might be, and even if you interact with people

Mind Uploading

2018-03-13 Thread John Clark
​ A new company called " ​ Nectome" was started just today to use revolutionary new aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation ​ technique, it wants to preserve brains specifically for mind uploading ​ ​ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610456/a-startup-is-

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:11:45 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/13/2018 12:19 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> Since this thread is reaching 100 posts where it is hard to keep track of >> and this

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:21:16 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > > > On 3/13/2018 12:19 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > Since this thread is reaching 100 posts where it is hard to keep track of > and this topic is low on my interest list I will simply leave the > following. Somebody pondered

Re: How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 3/13/2018 2:48 PM, smitra wrote: Uploading may only become feasible when society has already transitioned to a machine society, there may then be only a limited interest in uploading the brain contents of deceased persons who by that time will be regarded to be not so intelligent. Or they

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread Brent Meeker
On 3/13/2018 12:19 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: Since this thread is reaching 100 posts where it is hard to keep track of and this topic is low on my interest list I will simply leave the following. Somebody pondered that a UFO/ET site called GaiaPC is just wishful thinking. I responded with:

Re: How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread smitra
Uploading may only become feasible when society has already transitioned to a machine society, there may then be only a limited interest in uploading the brain contents of deceased persons who by that time will be regarded to be not so intelligent. Or they may only do that to extract what they

How to live forever

2018-03-13 Thread John Clark
​ Woody Allen said "*I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment*”, well maybe there is a way. Yesterday the Large Mammal Brain Preservation Prize was

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:19:51 PM UTC-4, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > Since this thread is reaching 100 posts where it is hard to keep track of > and this topic is low on my interest list I will simply leave the > following. Somebody pondered that a UFO/ET site called GaiaPC is just >

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 8:09:27 AM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 AM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Since this thread is reaching 100 posts where it is hard to keep track of and this topic is low on my interest list I will simply leave the following. Somebody pondered that a UFO/ET site called GaiaPC is just wishful thinking. I responded with: It has a component of magical thinking.

Re: Robot passes AI test

2018-03-13 Thread Lawrence Crowell
I have not read the paper yet, but I can't help but think that if you define according to some computational outcome then you have set a goal that you can achieve with computation. LC On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 6:04:20 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > And consciousness? > > > *Robot Passes AI

Re: Disclosure Project

2018-03-13 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:58:02 AM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 7:26:32 AM UTC-6,