Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/12/2018 9:06 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:09:03 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 10/10/2018 4:12 PM, Pierz wrote: It's not intelligent behaviour. There are tons of things (human artifacts that have been created to automate certain complex

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 4:09:03 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/10/2018 4:12 PM, Pierz wrote: > > It's not intelligent behaviour. There are tons of things (human artifacts > that have been created to automate certain complex input-output systems) > that exhibit complex,

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Brent Meeker
On 10/10/2018 4:12 PM, Pierz wrote: It's not intelligent behaviour. There are tons of things (human artifacts that have been created to automate certain complex input-output systems) that exhibit complex, intelligent-ish behaviour that I seriously doubt have any more sentience than a rock,

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Oct 2018, at 06:01, Pierz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:41:39 PM UTC+11, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:41:04 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > On 10/9/2018 9:18 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Oct 2018, at 01:12, Pierz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:16:59 PM UTC+11, John Clark wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM Pierz > wrote: > > >I refuse to accept that "axiom", and I also do not feel compelled to embrace > >solipsism. > > You are able to

Re: The hard problem of matter

2018-10-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 10 Oct 2018, at 07:50, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2018 9:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 8:16:59 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 7:54 PM Pierz > wrote: >> >> >I refuse to accept that "axiom", and I also do not feel