Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-19 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:24:48 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 17 Nov 2018, at 03:58, John Clark > > wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:42 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> *> A practical difficulty here is that logicians used the term model like >> painters: the model is

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-19 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 6:24 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *> The notion of model “modelises” the notion of reality.* > I see. No I take that back I don't see. What does that mean, how would thing s look different if it were the other way around, what if the notion of reality realizes the notion of

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-19 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 4:54:47 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Nov 2018, at 19:55, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 11:05:51 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 15 Nov 2018, at 18:13, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, Novemb

Re: Measuring a system in a superposition of states vs in a mixed state

2018-11-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Nov 2018, at 14:00, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 12:19:20 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 16 Nov 2018, at 15:38, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 10:14:32 AM UTC, scerir wrote: >> >> >>> Il 16 nov

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Nov 2018, at 03:58, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:42 PM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > A practical difficulty here is that logicians used the term model like > > painters: the model is the reality > > Mathematician can use one part of mathe

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 16 Nov 2018, at 19:55, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 11:05:51 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 15 Nov 2018, at 18:13, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 5:15:39 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 13 Nov