Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/26/2019 12:29 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:29:08 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:14 PM > wrote: /> How do the mathematicians prove it?/ Mathematicians can't prove that a physical theory is correct, all

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/26/2019 6:14 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 6:28:18 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:40 AM > wrote: >>>Einstein never said everything is relative. Unlike velocity there is such a thing as

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread smitra
On 26-03-2019 20:29, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:29:08 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:14 PM wrote: _> How do the mathematicians prove it?_ Mathematicians can't prove that a physical theory is correct, all they can do is show that

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:29:08 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:14 PM > wrote: > > *> How do the mathematicians prove it?* > > > Mathematicians can't prove that a physical theory is correct, all they can > do is show that changing the coordinate system (for

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:14 PM wrote: *> How do the mathematicians prove it?* Mathematicians can't prove that a physical theory is correct, all they can do is show that changing the coordinate system (for example by rotating the X and Y axis) does not result in different physical predictions.

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 10:36:03 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > By the way, just 2 weeks ago the best test ever made of Einstein's > Equivalence Principle was performed in a gravitational field one million > times greater than Earth's and Einstein passed the test with flying > colors.

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 9:35:41 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:14 AM > wrote: > > *>* *although the field equations are claimed to be the same in all >> frames, accelerating or not, how does one prove that* >> > > Mathematicians prove things Physicists don't.

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread John Clark
By the way, just 2 weeks ago the best test ever made of Einstein's Equivalence Principle was performed in a gravitational field one million times greater than Earth's and Einstein passed the test with flying colors. Test of the Einstein Equivalence Principle near the Galactic Center Supermassive

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:14 AM wrote: *>* *although the field equations are claimed to be the same in all frames, > accelerating or not, how does one prove that* > Mathematicians prove things Physicists don't. Physicists show that some ideas are less wrong than others and they do that by

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 6:28:18 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:40 AM > wrote: > > >>>Einstein never said everything is relative. Unlike velocity there is such a thing as absolute acceleration, if that were not true the Twin Paradox could not be

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:40 AM wrote: >>>Einstein never said everything is relative. Unlike velocity there is >>> such a thing as absolute acceleration, if that were not true the Twin >>> Paradox could not be resolved. >>> >> >> *>> But in GR don't the field equations take the same form in all

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

2019-03-26 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:13:06 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 10:08:53 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:16 AM wrote: >> >> * > how does GR establish the Principle of Relativity (for accelerating >>> frames)? AG