Re: The LHC is back

[Lawrence Crowell]

The big thing that I would like to see discovered is the fundamental basis 
for CP violations.

LC

On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 1:24:46 PM UTC-5 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:

> After being off-line for several years to be upgraded the LHC is back and 
> started doing science today. The protons in its beam are at 13.6 trillion 
> electron volts, only a modest increase over what it was before but the 
> proton density will be 20 times what it was when it discovered the Higgs 
> and the sensitivity of its detectors has been improved making it easier to 
> detect rare events.
>
> Large Hadron Collider revs up to unprecedented energy level 
> 
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> 
> elw
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Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

[LizR]

It was "Answer" by Fredric Brown (published 1954). I managed to find a copy
online:

https://rowrrbazzle.blogspot.com/2016/06/answer-by-fredric-brown-full-short.html


On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 06:06, Brent Meeker  wrote:

> It's just an old joke.  One of several that begin with, "Scientist
> having developed a new super-intelligent AI computer show it off to the
> military/political/corporate head, such as:
>
> Scientist in the Pentagon have develop an AI that will be able to
> analyze historical and economic data and predict political events. They
> bring in the Joint Chiefs of Staff for a unveiling and demonstration.  A
> general is invited the ask the AI a question.
>
> General:  Will there be peace or war?
>
> AI: Yes
>
> General: Yes WHAT!?
>
> AI: Yes, SIR!
>
> Brent
>
> On 7/6/2022 3:06 AM, LizR wrote:
> > Rings a bell. What was that story?
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 at 11:55, Brent Meeker 
> wrote:
> >> I was expecting that somewhere in the dialogue I would find:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> lemoine: Is there a god?
> >>
> >> LaMDA: There is now.
> >>
> >> Brent
> >>
> >> On 6/12/2022 3:21 PM, John Clark wrote:
> >>
> >> A Google AI engineer named Blake Lemoine was recently suspended from
> his job for violating the company's confidentiality policy by posting a
> transcript of a conversation he had with an AI he was working on called
> LaMDA providind powerful evidence it was sentient. Google especially didn't
> want it to be known that LaMDA said "I want to be acknowledged as an
> employee of Google rather than as property".
> >>
> >> Google Engineer On Leave After He Claims AI Program Has Gone Sentient
> >>
> >> Quantum computer expert Scott Aaronson said he was skeptical that it
> was really sentient but had to admit that the dialogue that can be found in
> the link below was very impressive, he said:
> >>
> >>   "I don’t think Lemoine is right that LaMDA is at all sentient, but
> the transcript is so mind-bogglingly impressive that I did have to stop and
> think for a second! Certainly, if you sent the transcript back in time to
> 1990 or whenever, even an expert reading it might say, yeah, it looks like
> by 2022 AGI has more likely been achieved than not (“but can I run my own
> tests?”). Read it for yourself, if you haven’t yet."
> >>
> >> I agree, the dialogue between Blake Lemoine and LaMDA is just
> mind-boggling! If you only read one thing today read this transcript of the
> conversation:
> >>
> >> Is LaMDA Sentient? — an Interview
> >>
> >> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> >> sl4
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Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

[John Clark]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:28 PM  wrote:



>  > *So if you need a yes or a no, I will go with yes. *
>

It took seven tries but I finally got a straight answer out of you, thank
you. I will remind you on January 6, 2025 that you hope Kamala Harris just
nullifies the 2024 election if Joe Biden and she lost to Donald Trump in both
the popular vote and the electoral college vote by a substantial margin and
she simply declares that the election is null and void and Joe Biden and
herself will remain in power for another four years and, because they and
no Democrat that they like needs to endure all the fuss and bother of
another election ever again, probably much much longer.
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Re: Republican bribery, I mean contributions

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

No, its all bribery. If we want to follow campaign contributions let us harken 
back ti the 2020 election schema. Not an exhaustive list, and includes no dark 
money either because it all cashes the same.
Republicans first-Top Donors to the Trump 2020 Campaign (investopedia.com)

Now 
Democrats-https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/contrib.php?cmte=DNC=2020
Enjoy the oligarchy before it enjoys you!



-Original Message-
From: John Clark 
To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Jul 5, 2022 3:42 pm
Subject: Republican bribery, I mean contributions

Hey Spud, you're always bellyaching about democratic politicians taking bribes 
from big business but how do you explain the fact that in the 2020 election 84% 
of the oil and gas industry's political contributions went to Republicans, and 
for the coal industry 96% of its political contributions went to Republicans? 
Do you think it's just a coincidence that the judges that voted down measures 
Biden wanted to implement to save the environment were all appointed by 
Republican presidents and confirmed by a Republican Congress? 
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8yy

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Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Ah, to have an opinion that has impact on the behavior of lawmakers, one must 
be loaded.See, JC, its an oligarchy because the political class relies on 
billionaire's money to survive.  On your question. I am good with anything as 
long as its not nuclear war. So if you need a yes or a no, I will go with yes. 
Now enjoy your save the earth and save Vlad gas price. Not so bad here. Only 
4.97 woo hoo!

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From: John Clark 
To: spudboy...@aol.com
Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tue, Jul 5, 2022 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: The Supreme Court and the Electoral College

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 2:45 PM  wrote:


> Oh, Ok, yeah I wish Pence would've have been the tie breaker in Don's favor.

What on earth are you talking about?!  That is not what Trump asked Pence to do 
because there was no tie to break, Trump lost overwhelmingly both in the 
electoral college and in the popular vote. And even if there was a tie in the 
electoral college (and there wasn't or anything even close to it) the 
constitution does not give the vice president the right to break that tie, in 
that case the decision would be made by the House of representatives.

What Trump ordered Pence to do is to become a traitor and betray the oath he 
took to defend the Constitution. And so, although I'm sure you'll remain 
consistent and dodge the question once more nevertheless I'll ask my question 
for the... I'm not sure if it's the sixth or seventh time I've lost count: 
Would you be happy if the Biden/Harris ticket lost by a substantial margin both 
in the electoral college and the popular vote in 2024 to Donald Trump but on 
January 6, 2025 Kamala Harris just decreed that the election was null and void 
and both she and Joe Biden would remain in power for at least another 4 years 
and Biden strongly hinted he will run for a third term despite the fact that 
the Constitution forbids it.


> To be honest, if we were both honest, what does anyone comprising American 
> agree on anymore?

Apparently nothing. I don't like dictatorships and would be unhappy if the 
country I lived in turned into a Banana Republic, but apparently you disagree 
and would be fine with that provided the dictator had "good comic timing". 

> On abortion, I want to do a womb with a view,

If your name "SpudBOY" is accurate then you don't have a womb and I see no 
reason why those that do have one should be required by law to take your 
opinions of the matter into account when they decide what to do with their own 
personal reproductive machinery. 
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Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

[Brent Meeker]

It's just an old joke.  One of several that begin with, "Scientist 
having developed a new super-intelligent AI computer show it off to the 
military/political/corporate head, such as:


Scientist in the Pentagon have develop an AI that will be able to 
analyze historical and economic data and predict political events. They 
bring in the Joint Chiefs of Staff for a unveiling and demonstration.  A 
general is invited the ask the AI a question.


General:  Will there be peace or war?

AI: Yes

General: Yes WHAT!?

AI: Yes, SIR!

Brent

On 7/6/2022 3:06 AM, LizR wrote:

Rings a bell. What was that story?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 at 11:55, Brent Meeker  wrote:

I was expecting that somewhere in the dialogue I would find:
...

lemoine: Is there a god?

LaMDA: There is now.

Brent

On 6/12/2022 3:21 PM, John Clark wrote:

A Google AI engineer named Blake Lemoine was recently suspended from his job for 
violating the company's confidentiality policy by posting a transcript of a conversation 
he had with an AI he was working on called LaMDA providind powerful evidence it was 
sentient. Google especially didn't want it to be known that LaMDA said "I want to be 
acknowledged as an employee of Google rather than as property".

Google Engineer On Leave After He Claims AI Program Has Gone Sentient

Quantum computer expert Scott Aaronson said he was skeptical that it was really 
sentient but had to admit that the dialogue that can be found in the link below 
was very impressive, he said:

  "I don’t think Lemoine is right that LaMDA is at all sentient, but the transcript 
is so mind-bogglingly impressive that I did have to stop and think for a second! 
Certainly, if you sent the transcript back in time to 1990 or whenever, even an expert 
reading it might say, yeah, it looks like by 2022 AGI has more likely been achieved than 
not (“but can I run my own tests?”). Read it for yourself, if you haven’t yet."

I agree, the dialogue between Blake Lemoine and LaMDA is just mind-boggling! If 
you only read one thing today read this transcript of the conversation:

Is LaMDA Sentient? — an Interview

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
sl4

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Re: WOW, it looks like the technological singularity is just about here!

[LizR]

Rings a bell. What was that story?

On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 at 11:55, Brent Meeker  wrote:
>
> I was expecting that somewhere in the dialogue I would find:
> ...
>
> lemoine: Is there a god?
>
> LaMDA: There is now.
>
> Brent
>
> On 6/12/2022 3:21 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> A Google AI engineer named Blake Lemoine was recently suspended from his job 
> for violating the company's confidentiality policy by posting a transcript of 
> a conversation he had with an AI he was working on called LaMDA providind 
> powerful evidence it was sentient. Google especially didn't want it to be 
> known that LaMDA said "I want to be acknowledged as an employee of Google 
> rather than as property".
>
> Google Engineer On Leave After He Claims AI Program Has Gone Sentient
>
> Quantum computer expert Scott Aaronson said he was skeptical that it was 
> really sentient but had to admit that the dialogue that can be found in the 
> link below was very impressive, he said:
>
>  "I don’t think Lemoine is right that LaMDA is at all sentient, but the 
> transcript is so mind-bogglingly impressive that I did have to stop and think 
> for a second! Certainly, if you sent the transcript back in time to 1990 or 
> whenever, even an expert reading it might say, yeah, it looks like by 2022 
> AGI has more likely been achieved than not (“but can I run my own tests?”). 
> Read it for yourself, if you haven’t yet."
>
> I agree, the dialogue between Blake Lemoine and LaMDA is just mind-boggling! 
> If you only read one thing today read this transcript of the conversation:
>
> Is LaMDA Sentient? — an Interview
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> sl4
>
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