Re: Time Until Superintelligence and the Singularity, 20 Years or 8 Years or 2?

2023-07-12 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:19 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> I am following along the March statement by Ray Kurzweil forecasting a > first push at human immortality at 2030. For this to occur something > revolutionary must happen with

Re: Time Until Superintelligence and the Singularity, 20 Years or 8 Years or 2?

2023-07-11 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 1:46 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *> Whenever AI is installed on reliable quantum computers. Yes above 100 > successful operations per second I will hold with your prediction.* OpenAI, the company that made

Time Until Superintelligence and the Singularity, 20 Years or 8 Years or 2?

2023-07-10 Thread John Clark
Time Until Superintelligence: 1-2 Years, or 20? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis ibtr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

GPE-4 tests into the top 1% for original creative thinking

2023-07-10 Thread John Clark
The Torrance Tests of Creative Thinking (TTCT) is a 90 minute test psychologist use to measure creativity in humans. Recently GPT-4 was given the test and its results were compared with 2700 college students who took the TTCT in 2016. The Scholastic Testing Service, which graded GPT-4 results,

Douglas Hofstadter on the recent exponential increase machine intelligence

2023-07-09 Thread John Clark
Douglas Hofstadter wrote my favorite book of all time, Gödel Escher Bach, so I was very interested in this interview he gave just a few days ago about AI. As recently as 2022 Hofstadter was saying that GPT-3, the most advanced AI available at the time, was not conscious and it would be hundreds

What Trump's own people say about him

2023-07-07 Thread John Clark
What Trump's own people say about him John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 7fx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: The expansion of the universe could be a mirage, new theoretical study suggests

2023-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 5:05 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> The expansion of the universe could be a mirage, new theoretical study > suggests | Live Science* >

NYTimes.com: A.I. Is Coming for Mathematics, Too

2023-07-03 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. A.I. Is Coming for Mathematics, Too For thousands of years, mathematicians have adapted to the latest advances in logic and reasoning. Are they ready for

The Euclid satellite

2023-06-30 Thread John Clark
Tomorrow June 1 at 11:12 AM the Euclid satellite will be launched by SpaceX at Cape Kennedy, it had been set to be launched by Russia but after they invaded Ukraine they pulled out and SpaceX took over. Euclid is a €1.4 billion project designed to investigate Dark Energy, the mysterious force

A newfound gravitational wave ‘hum’ may be from the universe’s biggest black holes

2023-06-29 Thread John Clark
A newfound gravitational wave ‘hum’ may be from the universe’s biggest black holes John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis t5o -- You received this message

NYTimes.com: The Cosmos Is Thrumming With Gravitational Waves, Astronomers Find

2023-06-29 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. The Cosmos Is Thrumming With Gravitational Waves, Astronomers Find Radio telescopes around the world picked up a telltale hum reverberating across the cosmos,

Google Gemini: AlphaGo-GPT?

2023-06-28 Thread John Clark
Anybody who still thinks the Singularity will only happen in the distant future needs to watch this video. Google Gemini: AlphaGo-GPT? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 5bl -- You

Re: Life as electrons??

2023-06-25 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 5:45 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > PHILOSOPHER V NEUROSCIENTIST. 1-0. > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02120-8 > I'm not surprised that philosopher David Chalmers won the bet, but I am surprised that

Re: Life as electrons??

2023-06-24 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 6:37 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *John, please evaluate this article, because this report indicates that > life could somehow be electron clouds of some sort, and we all know that > electrons repel each other?

Microsoft Says It Will Build a Quantum Supercomputer Within Ten Years

2023-06-23 Thread John Clark
*"Microsoft promises it'll deliver a Quantum Supercomputer - that will wreak havoc on any standard, non-quantum cryptography (including bitcoin) - in under a decade."* Microsoft Says It Will Build a Quantum Supercomputer Within Ten Years

Re: AI takeoff speed

2023-06-23 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 1:49 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> An interesting comparison. But it avoids the obvious lesson. > There was a smooth evolutionary landscape leading to homo sapiens. What > happened was that homo sapiens killed off all the near competitors, * You may be right but you don't

NYTimes.com: New Study Bolsters Room-Temperature Superconductor Claim

2023-06-23 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. New Study Bolsters Room-Temperature Superconductor Claim A team of researchers verified a key measurement from a study earlier this year that had faced doubts

AI takeoff speed

2023-06-20 Thread John Clark
I found a very interesting article about when the AI intelligence explosion will occur it's at: AI takeoff Speed I have picked out a few quotations

Re: Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-19 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 7:21 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> It is practical from an engineering standpoint. I am a follower of the > late, physics professor Gerry O'Neil, and others who have long, proposed > this technology.* > I know,

Re: Lock him up?

2023-06-18 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 6:44 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> What about the Wuhan flu, obviously percolated in a Chinese lab? > Accidentally released before it was ready to infect **Hong Kong or India* As I said, if Donald Trump or

Re: Lock him up?

2023-06-18 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 5:06 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *J**oey takes bribes, using Hunter as bag man.* > As I said, if Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch says something then Mr. Spudboy says it. Monkey see monkey do. They know exactly

Betelgeuse going supernova in only a century or two?

2023-06-16 Thread John Clark
There are good historical records of the variations in brightness of Betelgeuse going back about a century caused by pulsations in the star's size. In a recent paper astrophysicists made computer models of Betelgeuse, and the model that best fit the data indicates that Betelgeuse is not in it's

Evidence for the utility of quantum computing before fault tolerance

2023-06-16 Thread John Clark
Back in 2019 Google claimed they had achieved quantum supremacy because they solved a problem in a few seconds that they said would take a conventional computer 10,000 years to solve, however that claim was later disputed because somebody came up with an algorithm that could solve that problem on

Re: Lock him up?

2023-06-15 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 4:46 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> I see a double impeachment coming.* Your trainer, Donald Trump, instructed you to believe that Joe Biden is corrupt, more corrupt even than Trump himself is. And *monkey see

Solar Power Satellites

2023-06-14 Thread John Clark
This article doesn't contain many details and I'm skeptical they've actually made it practical, but I'd love to be proven wrong. However there is one thing you can be absolutely certain of, if Solar Power Satellites really can provide cheap clean safe reusable power then environmentalists will

NYTimes.com: One of the Last Bastions of Digital Privacy Is Under Threat

2023-06-14 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. One of the Last Bastions of Digital Privacy Is Under Threat There are dangers to the latest regulatory efforts to force tech companies to monitor all content

Re: Lock him up?

2023-06-13 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 2:17 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> You Guys open to RFK Jr.? Interesting guy there, "policy-minded' rather > than ideological. * RFK Jr is not "minded" at all, in fact he's nearly as stupid as Donald Trump, and

Re: DeepMind AI Discovers Better Algorithms for Foundational Computing

2023-06-12 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 7:14 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: *> But, but, how are humans going to measure its smartness * By using a stopwatch. An Artificial Intelligence has recently found a machine language sorting program that is smaller and faster than anything any human being has seen before. And a

DeepMind AI Discovers Better Algorithms for Foundational Computing

2023-06-11 Thread John Clark
If this is not an example of an AI helping to develop a smarter AI then I don't know what is. People are gonna be having a very hard time trying to convince themselves this is just a glorified autocomplete program. AlphaDev - DeepMind AI Discovers Better Algorithms for Foundational Computing

Re: Lock him up?

2023-06-10 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 5:01 PM Brent Meeker wrote: * > If I were Biden, after Trump has been convicted on federal charges I > would commute his sentence, replacing prison time with house arrest at Mar > a Lago, but not any financial or other penalties, such as inability to hold > office. This

NYTimes.com: From Energy Drinks to Extending Life? Supplement Slows Aging in Mice and Monkeys

2023-06-09 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. >From Energy Drinks to Extending Life? Supplement Slows Aging in Mice and Monkeys Taurine helped stave off death in laboratory animals, but researchers

Manufacturing in the USA

2023-06-09 Thread John Clark
I recently saw two charts that vividly contrast the outcome of the economic policies of Trump and Biden. [image: image.png] [image: image.png] Trump wanted to increase US manufacturing and thought he could do that by drastically cutting business taxes, increasing tariffs, and instigating a

Lock him up?

2023-06-09 Thread John Clark
Convicted rapist Donald J Trump has now been indicted for a second time for committing felonies. The first time it was by a state court for misusing campaign funds by paying a porn star not to tell the world that Trump's penis looked like "*a little mushroom*" just before the election. And the

ASML's amazing new chip lithography machine

2023-06-06 Thread John Clark
This is a good video about ASML's new chip making machine, and I think I can see why it cost $350 million. A major chip fabricating plant may have a dozen or more of these beauties. ASML'S High-Numerical Aperture Extreme Ultraviolet Semiconductor Lithography Machine

Thorium Nuclear Clocks

2023-06-05 Thread John Clark
Existing atomic clocks are stable to within 1 part in 10^20, if two of them had been synchronized 13.8 billion years ago during the Big Bang today they would disagree with each other by less than 1/100 of a second. But scientists want something better, they want to make a nuclear clock, which

Re: AI and Interest rates

2023-06-04 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 1:51 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> You need land for the solar panel power farms.* As Freeman Dyson pointed out, you don't need land or even the Earth in order to get useful work out of the sun. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

GPT and the human genome

2023-06-03 Thread John Clark
Now a version of GPT is being used to analyze tens of thousands of genomes, including those of human beings, and make predictions about individuals that have them. Illumina AI - ChatGPT for your genome. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

AI and Interest rates

2023-06-03 Thread John Clark
I have a theory about interest rates and I'd like to know what those who know more about economics than I do think about it. When it comes to economic forecasting the generally accepted beliefs that an economy's population has is all important, and it doesn't even matter if that belief is true.

Re: Mr. GPT, show me your work

2023-06-03 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 6:45 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > *> A fascinating interview of Anil Seth on consciousness. JKC will be > especially interested in the last segments starting at 46:15.* > > *https://listen.quantamagazine.org/jow-208-nwslttr* >

Re: A previous subject on environmentalism that echoes JC's view

2023-06-02 Thread John Clark
NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) it's bad enough but environmentalists have gone Bananas (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone). John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 7vo On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 9:39 PM wrote: >

Mr. GPT, show me your work

2023-06-02 Thread John Clark
In a very recent paper even the authors of GPT state they were surprised that a few simple techniques can dramatically improve the performance of their AI, particularly when you tell it to show you the reasoning it used to come up with the answer that it gave. Some have suggested that in addition

Quantum Computer recommendations

2023-05-31 Thread John Clark
I like to read what Scott Aaronson has to say about Quantum Computers because he is one of the world's greatest experts on the subject and is the first to reject overhyped claims about advances in the field, so I respect his recommendations. It has recently become clear that Aaronson doesn't think

NYTimes.com: The Race to Make A.I. Smaller (and Smarter)

2023-05-31 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. The Race to Make A.I. Smaller (and Smarter) Teaching fewer words to large language models might help them sound more human.

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-28 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 8:19 PM smitra wrote: > *> chatGPT was able to give the derivation of the moment of inertia of a > sphere, but was unable to derive this in amuch simpler way * First of all, GPT-4 is much smarter than chatGPT, so you should try that. And for reasons that are not

Re: Quantum computers: what are they good for?

2023-05-27 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 5:38 PM Brent Meeker wrote: * > That was one of the original motivations for QC, protein folding. But > ironically there have now been developed fast classical algorithms that do > protein folding. This illustrates that there is no proof that QC is > necessarily faster

Gravitational-wave detector LIGO is back and can spot more colliding black holes than ever

2023-05-25 Thread John Clark
The new and improved LIGO detector has already found something interesting. It's too recent to have been mentioned in the article but yesterday my phone gave me an alert that exactly 17.8 seconds after 10:38PM Eastern time LIGO detected something which they preliminarily gave a 72% probability of

Quantum computers: what are they good for?

2023-05-25 Thread John Clark
Some interesting quotations from this Nature article: *"**The short-term hype is a bit high, but the long-term hype is nowhere near enough.”* * “If anything is going to give something useful in the next five years, it will be chemistry calculations, That’s because of the relatively low resource

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-25 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:28 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> Have you ever wondered what delineates the mind from its environment?* > No. > * > Why it is that you are not aware of my thoughts but you see me as an > object that only affects your senses, even though we could represent the > whole

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-25 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 7:56 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> Can I ask you what you would believe would happen to the conscious of > the individual if you replaced the right hemisphere of the brain with a > black box that interfaced identically with the left hemisphere, but > internal to this black box

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-24 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 8:07 AM Jason Resch wrote: >> But you'd still need a computation to find the particular tape recording >> that you need, and the larger your library of recordings the more complex >> the computation you'd need to do would be. And in that very silly >> thought experiment

Gravitational wave detector LIGO is back online!

2023-05-24 Thread John Clark
And now LIGO is much more sensitive so it will be able to detect about 10 times more Black Hole mergers than it was capable of doing back in 2015 when it detected its first Black Hole collision. Gravitational wave detector LIGO is back online

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-24 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:37 AM Jason Resch wrote: *> By substituting a recording of a computation for a computation, you > replace a conscious mind with a tape recording of the prior behavior of a > conscious mind. * But you'd still need a computation to find the particular tape recording

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:30 PM Terren Suydam wrote: >> If I could instantly stop all physical processes that are going on >> inside your head for one year and then start them up again, to an >> outside objective observer you would appear to lose consciousness for one >> year, but to you your

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 Terren Suydam wrote: *> reality is fundamentally consciousness. * Then why does a simple physical molecule like *N**2**O *stop consciousness temporarily and another simple physical molecule like *CN- *do so permanently? > *> Why does some "knowledge" correspond with a

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 3:50 PM Terren Suydam wrote: > * > in my view, consciousness entails a continuous flow of experience.* > If I could instantly stop all physical processes that are going on inside your head for one year and then start them up again, to an outside objective observer you

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 23, 2023 Terren Suydam wrote: *> What was the biochemical or neural change that suddenly birthed the > feeling of pain? * It would not be difficult to make a circuit such that that whenever a specific binary sequence of zeros and ones is in a register the circuit stops doing

Embodied AI ...Robots

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
Embodied AI ...Robots John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis 2t3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe

Re: what chatGPT is and is not

2023-05-23 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 5:56 PM Terren Suydam wrote: *> Many, myself included, are captivated by the amazing capabilities of > chatGPT and other LLMs. They are, truly, incredible. Depending on your > definition of Turing Test, it passes with flying colors in many, many > contexts. It would take

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-22 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:18 PM wrote: >*I can name 3 for ya. * > *1. Roger Penrose. Oxford, right?* > Wrong. About 25 years ago Roger Penrose suggested that microtubules inside of neurons might be involved in quantum computing (he didn't say how) which helped to tell the neuron when to fire,

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 9:25 PM wrote: *> Carroll is drawing a magical imaginary line across physical, material, > reality. * > > *He is doing Cartesian Dualism starting with pure physics. * > *Rene' DesCarte, Two kind of matter. * > What on earth are you talking about?! Carroll specifically

OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS

2023-05-19 Thread John Clark
I've already downloaded it to my iPhone in a few seconds and it couldn't be easier to use and is as mind-bogglingly smart as ever. OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

Sean Carroll on the Multiverse

2023-05-19 Thread John Clark
If you don't read his excellent book "Something Deeply Hidden" you should at least watch Sean Carroll's lecture on the Many Worlds interpretation, it's really really good. Sean Carroll on the Multiverse Version Quantum of Mechanics John K Clark --

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
ropolis> 6dq 7tt > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 7:32 AM John Clark wrote: > >> Greta Thunberg Arrested Twice While Protesting AGAINST Wind Turbines In >> Europe >> <https://stopthesethings.com/2023/03/08/believe-it-or-not-greta-thunberg-arrested-while-protes

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:48 AM Brent Meeker wrote: *I'm an advocate of fission reactor power, especially thorium molten salt > reactors along with solar and wind power. * Me too. * > As far as I know Greta Thunberg is a student, not an actress.* And a self-righteous little twit. John K

New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-18 Thread John Clark
In this video Sean Carroll makes a very strong case that new laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works: Quantum Mechanics Limits our knowledge of Universe John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-17 Thread John Clark
Greta Thunberg Arrested Twice While Protesting AGAINST Wind Turbines In Europe Greta Thunberg Protests Wind Farm In Wyoming

The first time the authors of GPT-4 realize something unexpected was going on

2023-05-16 Thread John Clark
Today's New York Times describes the first time the authors of GPT-4 realiz ed that they didn't fully understand how the program that they themselves had written worked. They asked a very early unreleased version of GPT-4 to solve a puzzle that they were almost sure it would not be able to solve

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-05-15 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 1:24 PM smitra wrote: > > *GPT may struggle doing the problem in that much simpler way even if you > walk it through most of thedetails of how to do it,* Instead of theorizing about what might happen, why not interrogate GPT-4 for yourself and see? John K ClarkSee

Re: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-15 Thread John Clark
s true, you wouldn't need quantum computers, the conventional variety would work just as well. I could be wrong but I don't expect that to happen. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> yum w3x > > > > >> >>

Re: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-13 Thread John Clark
t as far as making a topological quantum computer is concerned that distinction is not very important. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> naa > > On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 1:58:03 PM UTC-5 John Clark wrote: > >&

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-12 Thread John Clark
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:33 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > I* have found 2 mistakes it* [GPT-4] *has made. It has caught me on a few > errors as well.* > To me that sounds like very impressive performance. If you were working with a human colleague who did the

Personalized RNA neoantigen vaccines stimulate T cells in pancreatic cancer

2023-05-11 Thread John Clark
Personalized RNA neoantigen vaccines stimulate T cells in pancreatic cancer John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

NYTimes.com: Pancreatic Cancer Vaccine Shows Promise in Small Trial

2023-05-11 Thread John Clark
Check out this article from The New York Times. Because I'm a subscriber, you can read it through this gift link without a subscription. Pancreatic Cancer Vaccine Shows Promise in Small Trial Using mRNA tailored to each patient’s tumor, the vaccine may have staved off the return of one of the

Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-10 Thread John Clark
As if all the news about GPT-4 were not enough, this is an article from the journal Nature that that went online yesterday: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:10 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > I spent some time on GPT-4 this afternoon. I wrote about a topic that was > leading to an inference I had made. Before I wrote on that inference GPT > made the same inference. Wow! Would I be correct in

​Let's work this out in a step by step way to be sure we have the right answer

2023-05-08 Thread John Clark
Despite GPT's obvious intelligence it can occasionally give stupid boneheaded responses that even a child wouldn't make, but one user has found that the number of times it makes these brain farts can be reduced by more than half by simply writing the following sentence after you give it your

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 10:16 PM wrote: *> Why Have We Never Detected Aliens? Scientist Proposes a New Explanation > (msn.com) >

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 6:27 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> I can think of 3 possibilities: >> 1) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life, other than >> that which exists on earth, never existed in the observable universe. >> 2) They don't need such constructs because intelligent life

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 11:02 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > > * > Dyson sphere is purely theoretical concept. Was there even a small > model built and tried? Something like ten meters in diameter, for example?* Huh? Have objects 10 m in diameter or larger ever been heated internally? Yes *> Was

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-06 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:03 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> I had this conservation with GPT-4 on aspects of black hole quantum > mechanics. I kept it largely non-mathematical. This is interesting, and it > suggests a level of processing that is complex. An AI

GPT-4 hits the IQ ceiling (Theory of Mind, Mensa, Asimov)

2023-05-05 Thread John Clark
I know this won't stop some people from continuing to whistle past the graveyard. but this is one of the most interesting videos I've watched in a long time. The gist of it is that GPT-4 is getting so smart that it's very difficult to find human beings who are smart enough to write IQ test

Schrödinger cat states of a 16-microgram mechanical oscillator

2023-05-05 Thread John Clark
The April 20, 2023 issue of the journal Science reports that researchers have been able to put 10^17 atoms with a mass of 1.62*10^-8 kilograms (about the mass of a grain of sand ) into a Schrodinger Cat State. It is by far the most massive object ever put into that bizarre state. I found it

Why Tucker Carlson was fired

2023-05-03 Thread John Clark
The New York Times just published this which they say caused Tucker Carlson to be fired from Fox News, it was an exhibit in the libel suit against Fox that was out settled out of court for $787.5 million: EXHIBIT 276 *Tucker Carlson* January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC *"A couple of weeks ago, I

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:30 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > >> The radiant electromagnetic energy output of a star with a Dyson >> >> Sphere around it would be exactly the same as it was before the Dyson >> >> Sphere was built, the only difference is the energy would have been >> put to >> >> work and

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 8:29 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> The first example they give is the question 'Jack and Jill are sitting > side by side. The person next to Jack is angry. The person next to Jill is > happy. Who is happy, Jack or Jill?' Both GPT3 and GPT4 think Jill is happy.* > A few years

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:06 PM Jason Resch wrote: *> The extropy chat list has been extensively debating the question of GPTs > potential for understanding and consciousness the past several weeks. I'd > invite you to check it out if that subject interests anyone here.* > I can't. I had been

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 4:28 PM smitra wrote: https://nyti.ms/3VlIBDo#permid=124757243 You say that GPT4 doesn't understand what it is saying, but did you read my post about what happened when Scott Aaronson gave his final exam on Quantum Computers to GPT4? The computer sure acted as if it

Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 2:48 PM wrote: *>Xi is basing his politics on Gorbachev and the Soviets. He wants the > party to avoid destruction by crushing the middle class internally,* > OK. > * > and yes, killing America. Not economically, but with nuclear warheads > and a continental invasion,*

NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’? As labor contract negotiations heat up in Hollywood, unions representing writers and actors seek limits on

Re: Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 9:06 PM wrote: *> What we seem to need is a Singularity where we get breakthroughs in > materials science, and medicine. I will guess that only when LMM's and > other devices merge with low-error, high capacity quantum computers is when > this will happen.* Practical

Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-29 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 9:14 PM wrote > *the greatest human induced killing in human history was Mao's Great > Leap Forward 1958-1962. 45 million dead of starvation, all done from bad > agricultural planning by the CCP.* True. For a few years after the death of chairman Mao China started

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-28 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > > *> As of relations between hypotetical neighbors, I do not think anybody > would make big fuss if one of them decided to suck full energy of their > star (i.e. becoming Type2).* I can't think of any reason neighbors would object to

Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-27 Thread John Clark
Two years ago Sam Altman, the CEO of open AI which made GTP4, wrote an interesting article called Moore's law for Everything. Here is an excerpt: *"In the next five years, computer programs that can think will read legal documents and give medical advice. In the next decade, they will do

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:07 PM Tomasz Rola wrote: > * > My version is, if there was anything like type2/3 civilization, it > would quickly become a pest to everybody around.* Only if the neighbors had something that a type 3 civilization didn't, and I can't imagine what that could be. >

GPT-4 gets a B on Scott Aaronson's quantum computing final exam

2023-04-26 Thread John Clark
Anyone who claims that GPT-4 is just a language model that uses statistics to mindlessly calculate what the next word in a sentence most likely is and understands nothing needs to explain this! The link below gives Aaronson's final exam questions given to humans for his advanced quantum computer

NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-25 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line The Communist Party outlined draft rules that would set guardrails on the rapidly growing industry of services

Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-23 Thread John Clark
Yet more evidence that we're alone in the universe, at least the observable universe. Upper limits on transmitter rate of extragalactic civilizations placed by Breakthrough Listen observations Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

NYTimes.com: That Famous Black Hole Just Got Even Darker

2023-04-23 Thread John Clark
You can read this article from The New York Times without a subscription. Tap the link to read it, and enjoy quality independent journalism That Famous Black Hole Just Got Even Darker Astronomers recently used artificial intelligence to fine-tune the first-ever image of a black hole, captured in

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-19 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 7:50 AM wrote: > l*et's extend the discussion to these philosophers of science. One is > Canadian, John Lelise. University Guelph. * > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Leslie > According to the article "*Leslie argues for a pantheistic universe in which

Artists are on a path leading to unemployment

2023-04-18 Thread John Clark
Artist rejects photo prize after AI-generated image wins award John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis ltu -- You received this message because you are subscribed

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