I'm sure John Donne would agree.
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On 29 March 2015 at 10:45, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
But if it were a world of copying machines and John K Clark says I
expect to see Moscow tomorrow then who the hell knows what I means.
The same is true of the MWI. We don't say I expect to see both spin up and
spin down, or I
On 30 March 2015 at 14:35, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Them? They're just idiot warmongers like the brutes they are confronting.
Takes one to know one. As soon as you have my tribe you also
unfortunately have not in my tribe. Besides, some of them only may be
warriors. Most are
On 29 March 2015 at 17:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Women have evolved to be attracted to guys that can get lots of women
pregnant - that's sexual selection in action. Peahens mate with peacocks
that have beautiful tails because that means their sons will have beautiful
tails
On 29 March 2015 at 21:04, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
As you see, I believe in physicalism, not in Platonia. And I have not yet
seen any argument that might lead me to change my mind.
One reason that has been suggested is the unreasonable effectiveness of
maths as a
On 29 March 2015 at 10:21, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/28/2015 3:12 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Many people (notably feminists) complain about the alpha-male
sociopathic douchebag ruining society for everyone. But then, if you
investigate further, this archetype has a lot of
On 30 March 2015 at 08:40, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Come on John – are you trying to be cute?
Yes, do you think its working? I always wanted to be in a boy band and I
just
On 30 March 2015 at 15:20, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:10 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
But if it were a world of copying machines and John K Clark says I
expect to see Moscow tomorrow then who the hell knows what I means.
The same is true
There is a recording of your life experience and mine in pi, and also in
e and no doubt lots of other transfinite numbers. What breathes fire into
the recordings? A UTM - which has to be instantiated in some sense (not
necessairly physical). Somehow this works by takeing one set of numbers
Sure it isn't the empty box that is nothing, it's the contents of the box?
I don't see that talking about nothingness renders it into something. I
could talk about pink unicorns, for example, withouthang on what's the
neighing sound outside my window? Excuse me a moment.
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On 28 March 2015 at 23:12, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
The characteristics of a gender have been evolved by millions of years of
selection, and women preferences play a role in this selection process.
Not just A role but the main role, I would say. As any peahen or bowerbird
“We're all islands shouting lies to each other across seas of
misunderstanding.”
― Rudyard Kipling
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6989.Rudyard_Kipling, *The Light
That Failed https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1600120*
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On 27 March 2015 at 23:24, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-03-27 10:12 GMT+01:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com:
On 27 March 2015 at 19:28, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
The ab asurdo is showing computationalism is incompatible with physical
supervenience
On 28 March 2015 at 00:06, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
1- It is assumed you have a machinery/program that is conscious. (a real
conscious AI)
2- You have (for example) a conversation with it.
3- While doing that conversation, you record all inputs fed to the machine.
4- You
On 27 March 2015 at 19:28, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
The ab asurdo is showing computationalism is incompatible with physical
supervenience, not that it is true.
Yes sorry, reject was a poor choice of words. I meant argue from the comp
position rather than the materialist one,
Sadly, it's quite clear that Mr Clark has no wish to engage with the
argument being presented. It's fair to say that on this subject, at least,
rather than attempt to understand the point being made, he's resorted to
insults and dismissive clever answers. In other words, he's just trying
to annoy
On 28 March 2015 at 00:56, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
An algorithm for generating random numbers is fairly simple -- low
complexity.
Sorry, I checked with my programmer other half and there is no algorithm
for generating random numbers - which is unsurprising, because
On 28 March 2015 at 10:19, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
LizR:
I am not so sure Big Business *has* the interest of their shareholders
at all. It is the OWNER, the slave-driver, with enforcement, some of which
allowed to participate in some profits as 'shareholders', CEOs,
board-members
On 27 March 2015 at 17:35, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/26/2015 7:16 PM, LizR wrote:
On the subject of counterfactual correctness, isn't that the point of
Olimpia and Klara? My problem with counterfactual correctness is (probably
the same as Maudlin's?) -- how does the system
PGC - I think you may have skimmed over too much for me to grasp what
you're saying. But maybe not. So does contradicition arise because you
assume to start with that consciousness is created by computation, then
show that it would also (assuming physical supervenience) arise from
something
On 27 March 2015 at 17:13, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:16 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
PGC - I think you may have skimmed over too much for me to grasp what
you're saying. But maybe not. So does contradicition arise because you
Actually I'd like to know where the contradiction is too (and I have read
Bruno's papers, and The Amoeba's Secret, and of course Bruno has done his
best to teach me some modal logic...)
...but I still have difficulty following the MGA. It has been explained (at
least at times) as showing that if
On 27 March 2015 at 05:53, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
According to Quantum Mechanics depending on circumstances sometimes you
get interference and sometimes you don't, and we're talking about analogies
here and what it
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On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
So most of these women are Brits? WTF! Makes your blood run cold.
People are turning into zombies left right and centre. There is absolutely
nothing whatsoever in organised
On 27 March 2015 at 01:02, Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2015-03-26 12:13 GMT+01:00 Bruce Kellett bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2015-03-26 8:05 GMT+01:00 Bruce Kellett
This comes back to my original
On 25 March 2015 at 15:15, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
If I ask you assuming Eastern Standard Time did the Big Bang happen on a
Thursday?
The ultimate version of Last Thursdayism ?
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On 26 March 2015 at 07:00, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Yes, I also suspect that no deity exists but it will, in the future.
If you are curious about how this is already transforming into a religion,
google for Roko's basilisk.
Also the plot of Frank Herbert's Destination
On 26 March 2015 at 09:15, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
John is inconsistent... he asserts that theory for duplication machines,
and so say that he can never say anything about his future expectations
because he is no
On 26 March 2015 at 09:15, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-03-25 21:08 GMT+01:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 3/25/2015 9:15 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, there are as many (same) conscious moments as there are instances
running in realtime on the physical substrate
This could be just thye benevolent dictator we need to sort out the planet
we're ruining.
I for one welcome our silicon based overlords...
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That's the capsule theory of identity in a capsule, as it were. The MWI and
comp both lead to it - each observer moment is only connected to the others
by the contents of your memory. Otherwise you're like Memento man.
On 25 March 2015 at 19:23, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 25
http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
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On 25 March 2015 at 06:23, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Most people can't do that either. And researchers at the University of
Edinburgh made a machine that can write jokes such as I like my
relationships like I like my source, open. Well OK maybe it's not a
particularly funny
On 25 March 2015 at 06:23, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
And anyway the really important thing isn't if you can detect if the
thing you're talking to is a human but if you can detect if the thing
you're talking to
What's wrong with Last Thursdayism?
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So the recombination explicitly knits together the brains to preserve both
sets of memories. This would work OK if brains were hard drives, I guess! I
don't know how feasible-in-theory it is with real ones. (Or what it would
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On 24 March 2015 at 09:54, Terren Suydam terren.suy...@gmail.com wrote:
For me the MGA was illuminating, but an even more mind-bending
demonstration of the supervenience idea is that one can fashion a
Turing-complete computer using an array of simple mechanical switches,
through which
On 24 March 2015 at 13:07, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Yes, as I understand it that's the argument. It's consistent with
Platonism. A computer program's execution written out on paper is just as
much a calculation as a lot of transistors switching.
So is the idea to show that a
On 24 March 2015 at 13:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/23/2015 3:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 24 March 2015 at 11:08, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Or you can throw out the assumption that conscious thought is
independent of an external world. This assumption comes easily
On 24 March 2015 at 13:44, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Or contrariwise, can't all the inputs to the conscisouness be provided as
though it was in the world? (as for a brain in a vat for example. I mean
hypothetically, and to simplify the argument, not as a general model of
consciousness
On 24 March 2015 at 11:08, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Or you can throw out the assumption that conscious thought is
independent of an external world. This assumption comes easily to
Platonist because they think Platonia exists independent of any worlds; but
I find it very
We seem to have a competition to see who can best stereotype the other's
politics.
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On 23 March 2015 at 16:09, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
That's where the MGA comes in. It purports to show that one of the
possible substrates is inert matter, which seems so absurd that we should
conclude the matter plays no part whatsoever.
That sounds like Maudlin's Olimpia
On 24 March 2015 at 08:02, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
That every number has a unique successor for one.
Let's call the first number that doesn't have a unique successor n...
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On 24 March 2015 at 13:33, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
(if you are concerned that /some/ notion of time is essential, then it
needs only that time be encoded in the states in some way. No external time
parameter is needed. See Julian Barbour's book /The End of Time/)
Right. It's
I have no idea how you could combine them unless some form of quantum
erasure took place perhaps.
PS Isn't this like David Deutsch's quantum AI test of the MWI?
On 24 March 2015 at 16:28, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/23/2015 7:51 PM, John Clark wrote:
If you really want it to
bhkell...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:10:37AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:
Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:48:52AM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 23 March 2015 at 16:09, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
That's where the MGA
On 23 March 2015 at 07:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't think step 3 is at all essential to the argument. It's nothing
but setting up an analogy to Everett's MWI to show how uncertainty and
determinism are compatible - all of which JKC already accepts.
I have put this point
I've been given the impression that nuclear waste can be reprocessed in
thorium reactors, which I assume includes spent Uranium? But I am (of
course) not an expert on this. Everything I know about thorium reactors I
learned from an article in Cosmos (I think it was).
On 23 March 2015 at 03:48,
I've just revisited Russell's The MGA revisited in the hope of
understanding it. Unfortunately my pretty little head doesn't like being
bothered with such matters despite the spirit being willing so I found my
mind boggling a bit, as usual.
However the nub seems to be something like this.
If
How else might one look at it?
(And how about the nub -- is that correct?)
On 23 March 2015 at 12:09, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:24:35AM +1300, LizR wrote:
I've just revisited Russell's The MGA revisited in the hope of
understanding
that a particular arrangement of a
substrate is necessary for consciousness.
Of course, if you had never heard the term before, then it shouldn't
be a problem.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:11:02PM +1300, LizR wrote:
How else might one look at it?
(And how about the nub -- is that correct
On 21 March 2015 at 15:45, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/20/2015 6:25 PM,
...but not in a good way.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6223/1259855.abstract
That's actually more sanguine that I expected. I would have estimated
climate change as high risk (does beyond
On 22 March 2015 at 00:55, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that all the scenarios are due to the existence of human beings.
That isn't too surprising, given that we're the only technologically
advanced race ever to appear on the planet (Lovecraft aside).
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On 21 March 2015 at 22:35, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
I remember a long discussion where John ended up changing his claim that
step 3 was wrong to it just being trivial. But then he still refused to
keep reading. At this point I decided he was not serious about the issue.
On 22 March 2015 at 15:40, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:23 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
John appears to just not want to think about it, he's sure it's wrong
and he refuses to contemplate the possibility that *he's* wrong,
Just give me some
On 20 March 2015 at 20:57, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
A fundamental difference in science is that peer reviewers are other
scientists, working on their own research. There are no professional
critics in science.
That's true (I think). But there are plenty of commentators and
On 20 March 2015 at 23:43, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:25 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 20 March 2015 at 20:57, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
A fundamental difference in science is that peer reviewers are other
scientists
...but not in a good way.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6223/1259855.abstract
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On 3/19/2015 1:33 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 March 2015 at 18:47, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/18/2015 8:36 PM, LizR wrote:
...but if this happens it shows what you can accomplish if you don't
have to mess around
On 21 March 2015 at 09:22, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
In Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Just in case anybody wanted to pretend that the Fukushima disaster is
behind us; here is this piece of bad news, based on recent telemetry using
muon detectors
On 21 March 2015 at 06:08, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Don’t forget food critics
How could I forget my teenage son??!
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On 21 March 2015 at 08:51, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Because I spotted a blunder in the proof about 3 years ago and despite
reams of blather in hundreds of posts you were unable to fix it. Only a
fool would keep reading a mathematical proof after they've spotted an
error, and I
On 21 March 2015 at 16:00, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
But I think you're imagining the Turing test in a restricted way. The
Turing test can measure learning ability too. You've asked Liz and me to
prove some theorems in modal logic. I don't know about Liz, but I learned
what I
On 20 March 2015 at 10:56, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Clark is that desperate order of human whose only creative ability lies in
shitting on the thinking of others. He is quite simply bereft of any
thinking of his own and has clearly never once in gis life experienced a
This doesn't appear to have happened yet? I keep checking by still $6.83 or
whatever. Surely it's the 19th by now (even in the USA?)
On 18 March 2015 at 12:02, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes 20 copies can be sold to the people on this list! (After that it gets
more difficult
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/syria_safe_zone_loc/?bbUbKdbv=55481
Please sign and pass on if you agree.
The Syrian air force just dropped chlorine gas bombs on children. Their
little bodies gasped for air on hospital stretchers as medics held back
tears, and watched as they suffocated to death.
On 20 March 2015 at 12:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/19/2015 3:54 PM, LizR wrote:
On 20 March 2015 at 10:56, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Clark is that desperate order of human whose only creative ability lies
in shitting on the thinking of others. He is quite
, 2015 6:35 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
This doesn't appear to have happened yet? I keep checking by still $6.83
or whatever. Surely it's the 19th by now (even in the USA?)
On 18 March 2015 at 12:02, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes 20 copies can be sold to the people on this list
the price is now $1.99... so sounds like yeah, US only.
T
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:02 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm talking about what's at the other end of the link Russell provided.
This still says:
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As far as I know evolutionary advantage means favouring the replication
of a specific trait (or the genes underlying it) over competing traits. The
simplistic reasoning of an ignorant is the reasoning of Charles Darwin
and Richard Dawkins - that evolution acts on the individual in the first
case,
On 20 March 2015 at 09:28, spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
I am more afraid of a hot war with them.
Not sure if you've totally or only parly missed the point with that
comment. Well, duh, aren't we all, but so what? The suggestion was that
maybe the west
On 19 March 2015 at 18:47, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/18/2015 8:36 PM, LizR wrote:
...but if this happens it shows what you can accomplish if you don't have
to mess around with any pesky democratic processes...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-18/china
On 20 March 2015 at 09:21, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
LizR:
My descendants can not develop wings living in mountains, even if wings
permit us to move faster, this does not mean that natural selection do it
wrong. Even if there are animals that fly. My descendants
On 19 March 2015 at 01:28, spudboy100 via Everything List
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Yeah, good idea, but sounds like BS to me. Werner Von Braun thought that
we'd have a Mars landing by the 1980's/ Then, Again, Von Braun was involved
personally in the killing of my peeps, maybe
On 19 March 2015 at 06:36, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Only the one with a linear bottom seems to have the reasonable measure.
I have long realised this, but mine insists on being round and its measure
is quite unreasonable.
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:34 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying
technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke!
Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because they are often
humourless sociopaths.
I agree. I
Damn it, I've often cited this as an example of unintelligent design and
now the creationists get the last laugh. Oh well that's science!
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-purpose-of-our-eyes-strange-wiring-is-unveiled
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On 19 March 2015 at 15:15, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 01:08:05PM +1300, LizR wrote:
Damn it, I've often cited this as an example of unintelligent design and
now the creationists get the last laugh. Oh well that's science
On 14 March 2015 at 09:14, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/13/2015 12:35 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
You really do hate environmentalists don’t you John.
Hey, it's The Onion. It's like I tell vegans,The most environmentally
friendly diet is cannabilism.
...but if this happens it shows what you can accomplish if you don't have
to mess around with any pesky democratic processes...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-18/china-increases-solar-target-for-2015-as-it-fights-air-pollution
I just hope the USA decides that this constitutes a
Yes 20 copies can be sold to the people on this list! (After that it gets
more difficult...)
The Amoeba's Secret Theory of Nothing has a ring to it :-)
On 18 March 2015 at 00:03, spudboy100 via Everything List
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I think we need a Sequel of sorts to
the randomness of evolution.
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OK, if you say so. I only skimmed the article. Also, I have
I already have one of course, but if you can give me a link to the relevant
web page I'll let anyone I think might be interested know about it.
On 17 March 2015 at 12:34, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
Just a heads up that I'm running a price promotion on the US Amazon
Kindle
Elon Musk and Ned Ludd sound oddly similar.
On 17 March 2015 at 05:49, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
http://en.yibada.com/articles/19837/20150316/humans-hold-anti-ai-robot-protest-sxsw-texas.htm
I wonder how long before AIs hold an anti-human protest.
Cheers
Telmo.
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My apologies obviously you did mean finite.
This is very interesting although probably too much for my brain at the
moment.
What is all the stuff about S(S(0)) and {}, {{}}, etc? Doesn't that define
finite numbers?
On 17 March 2015 at 05:39, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Mar
to find that the real price is more like
the $7.99 it is supposed to be.
Cheers
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:29:39PM +1300, LizR wrote:
I already have one of course, but if you can give me a link to the
relevant
web page I'll let anyone I think might be interested know about it.
On 17
On 17 March 2015 at 08:08, PGC multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
That *is* funny because now, Bruno has to justify why for example any
grey diplomat/politician, say Angela Merkel is among the funniest comedians
on the planet...
Her degree is in Physical Chemistry (surprise aristotelian
of the convention to cause media attention and it worked.
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Elon Musk and Ned Ludd sound oddly similar
Well of course laughing AT people you dislike is a classic bullying
technique. And then you say oh come on it was only a joke!
Yet bullies never make jokes about themselves, because they are often
humourless sociopaths.
Dunno if this is on topic but I thought I'd mention it anyway, just in case.
But is it as environmentally friendly as the Grass Car?
On 14 March 2015 at 07:34, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXEddCLW3SM
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On 15 March 2015 at 08:59, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
LizR:
Consciousness, in my vocabulary sounds like: Response to Relations, not a
mental awarness in thinking/living creatures. Your views may be correct, if
you accept conclusions drawn in the name of the present science upon
On 16 March 2015 at 06:49, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Organisms apply pressure on surfaces, even if they are dead. This is
just a property of chunks of solid matter. Evolution did not create this
behaviour
I
Did you actually mean that Bruno or should it be infinite - I thought you
defined the notion.
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On 3/13/2015 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea
On 14 March 2015 at 07:21, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/13/2015 10:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:44 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/13/2015 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11 March 2015 at 06:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
it's irrelevant if mater is fundamental or not, either way it wouldn't
change the fact that a non-materialistic theory is not falsifiable.
Nor is a
sandard/format' (or call it as you wish) and I saw it as some teleological
aberration..
Your definition (thanks) still implies a 'better adoption' to some (still)
incomplete view.
I salute your it's possible.
John M
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:47 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12
I rarely get the chance to listen to talks (online or anywhere else) - I
don't suppose there's a paper or something giving same ideas?
On 12 March 2015 at 14:07, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
An excellent talk by Sean Carroll explicating where the gaps are in
Everett's MWI as applied
On 13 March 2015 at 09:21, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea that rocks are
not conscious.
They aren't?
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