2012/5/9 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 5/9/2012 2:15 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Maybe we need to number these:
(1)...an external agent directly injected chemicals or electrical
signals into your brain thereby causing a choice actually made by the
external agent.
To which you
2012/5/9 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 5/9/2012 2:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
So:
1- If someone is threatening me via my senses (via a weapons he holds, on
some forces he acts upon me... I still have free will, I've still the
ability to choose, some choices are more dangerous, I'm
2012/5/17 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
On May 17, 12:01 am, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
wrote
I don't say that [the free will noise] means you're not
deterministic,
I would be glad to hear you
2014-05-04 6:24 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com:
On 4 May 2014 15:20, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
I have forwarded your query to an expert in Arabic Grammar. Your quote
from Wikipedia is correct. What I can inform you, based on my
understanding, is that the pronoun 'ha' used
2014-05-05 10:30 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make
bitcoins first hope to profit from
2014-05-06 17:32 GMT+02:00 John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com:
All 101 of my “predictions” are predictions. I looked up “prediction”.
It means: “Something foretold or predicted”.
You do not predict anything about observed things... your points are about
things in your theory...
What does
2014-05-07 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 06 May 2014, at 20:22, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:07:27 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 May 2014, at 18:08, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 4:59:12 PM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com
2014-05-07 17:20 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 07 May 2014, at 11:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-05-07 11:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 06 May 2014, at 20:22, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
But you do not ever make a hard prediction Bruno
2014-05-11 0:58 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com:
On 10 May 2014 23:30, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 May 2014 20:12, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 May 2014 17:30, Stathis Papaioannou
2014-05-20 8:28 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com:
What about the waste tails he alludes to. I had not known that they had
actually constructed and tested U233 bombs – had always thought it was a
hypothetical problem rather than an actual and
2014-05-20 17:55 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com:
*From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Anciaux
*Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 11:49 PM
*To:* everything-list
2014-05-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 5/19/2014 11:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
These are valid criticisms that are very much not administrative nature
but cut right to the core [pun intended] of a world in which a multitude of
thorium U233 breeder reactors
2014-05-27 23:46 GMT+02:00 John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com:
Thank you, whoever it was that wrote the long paragraph. It reminds me of
the only lawyer joke that I can remember. “Why do they bury Lawyers 8 feet
deep.” “Because down deep they are not too bad.”
I did learn the Law of
2014-05-28 17:45 GMT+02:00 ghib...@gmail.com:
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:13:44 AM UTC+1, Stephen Paul King wrote:
To detect someone with Down's syndrome, sequence data is completely
useless. Please elaborate! I do know of other ways that data can be
organized...all
I was actually
Maybe it's when people post directly via googlegroups and not via their
email client ?
2014-06-05 19:28 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
Why do these posts appear with the From line EveryThing instead of
with the senders name?
Brent
On 6/5/2014 10:04 AM, spudboy100 via
2014-06-06 16:57 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com:
This is fascinating, and I have had such experiences as well.
I was warned against certain areas and I went there anyway. They looked
more grimy, but never had a problem. I fondly remember a poor
It seems to me Olympia is a simple table lookup for the input, the argument
he uses to place it in the oracle camp seems invalid to me, he posits that
he is able to construct a lookup table that contains the result of the
halting problem... and because such table is a lookup table, all lookup
, the lookup plays the role of an oracle...
that doesn't mean every lookup is an oracle.
Quentin
Or does it???
On 18 June 2014 18:37, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me Olympia is a simple table lookup for the input, the
argument he uses to place it in the oracle camp
2014-06-19 19:25 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
You mean that you made many attempts to find a blunder, but we were more
than three to show you that in each case, you were confusing 1-views and
3-views.
2014-06-19 21:10 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
you accept 1/3 distinction in MWI
Forget MWI, EVERYBODY who is not in a padded cell accepts the 1/3
distinction.
please do not come again
2014-06-19 21:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
No the I before measuring the spin, is as clear as the I pushing the
button, no confusion... When I ask that I what is the probability he'll see
spin up
2014-06-19 22:52 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
2014-06-19 21:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
No the I before measuring the spin, is as clear as the I pushing the
button
You're so full of it... well I won't enter with you again on this debate...
I've waited too much years... so ok.
Byebye
2014-06-20 21:28 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
And in the MWI how will YOU know
2014-06-25 6:52 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, LizR wrote:
On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
If primitive matter existed, and if it has a role for consciousness, or
for consciousness instantiation, step 8, and the argument above,
2014-06-25 10:15 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 25 Jun 2014, at 09:40, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-06-25 6:52 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 6/24/2014 2:29 AM, LizR wrote:
On 24 June 2014 17:04, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
If primitive matter
Le 29 juin 2014 18:33, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
the H-guy cannot be sure about its future 1-view *from the unique
1-view
Unique? That implies that there is one and only one correct answer to the
2014-06-30 14:38 GMT+02:00 spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com:
Well, I somehow do remember MAD, and it worked with the Sovs, but I
suspect less so with Iran, Isis and North Kor. Do you disagree?
Yes, from what I've read, a local nuclear conflict is pretty sure to
those countries,
China and Russia (and others who have the bomb) will do nothing ?
Quentin
-Original Message-
From: Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 10:16 am
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
:07 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
The USA has the capacity to destroy the missile before it even touch the
US... USA has not the capacity to do this for all the Russian ICBM *by
treaties* not because it's too difficult... USA has enough anti-ICBM to
destroy any north korean ICBM
2014-07-02 3:30 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com:
On 2 July 2014 11:09, spudboy100 via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
SMad will likely not work with say, an Iranian guv mint, but it worked ok
with the Sovs. You fear a Pyrrhic victory, I fear capitulation.
Yes,
2014-07-02 17:08 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Atheism, as I know it, is a slight variant of christianism.
Therefore I repeat what I said before, at least one of the following two
statements must be true:
2014-07-02 19:23 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
Atheism, as I know it, is a slight variant of christianism.
Therefore I repeat what I said before, at least one of the following
two statements must
2014-07-03 21:51 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I predict that the H-guy will see Helsinki, unless you destroy him
immediately after duplication
That is indeed the case in the step 3 protocol.
Fine,
2014-07-08 21:23 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11:56 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-08 20:47 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 10:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Jul 2014, at 21:13, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David Nyman
Le 8 juil. 2014 22:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/8/2014 12:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-08 21:23 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11:56 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-08 20:47 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014
Le 9 juil. 2014 01:09, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/8/2014 3:26 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 8 juil. 2014 22:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/8/2014 12:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-08 21:23 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
2014-07-09 2:36 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 4:26 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 9 juil. 2014 01:09, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/8/2014 3:26 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 8 juil. 2014 22:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7
2014-07-09 20:35 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11:13 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
That's what I said. And I think it fails to show that no physical
instantiation is necessary because it relies on the meaning given to the
original computational sequence to impute
2014-07-10 1:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/9/2014 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-09 20:35 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11:13 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
That's what I said. And I think it fails to show that no physical
2014-07-10 1:51 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
2014-07-10 1:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/9/2014 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-09 20:35 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11:13 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
That's what
Le 10 juil. 2014 03:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/9/2014 4:51 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 1:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/9/2014 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-09 20:35 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/8/2014 11
Le 10 juil. 2014 03:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/9/2014 4:59 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 1:51 GMT+02:00 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
2014-07-10 1:44 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/9/2014 11:38 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07
2014-07-10 8:06 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/9/2014 10:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
That means if the digital brain needed to interact with our
environment, the program would be linked to sensors giving it inputs to
interact with the world out there (the sensors
2014-07-10 20:39 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 4:08 AM, David Nyman wrote:
In short, under physicalism, a 'computation' *just is* a particular
sequence of physical states. Indeed what else could it be? The states, so
to speak, come first and hence the notion that
2014-07-10 21:56 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 12:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 20:39 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 4:08 AM, David Nyman wrote:
In short, under physicalism, a 'computation' *just is* a particular
sequence
2014-07-10 22:21 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 12:49 PM, David Nyman wrote:
On 10 July 2014 19:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In short, under physicalism, a 'computation' *just is* a particular
sequence of physical states. Indeed what else could it be?
ni
Le 10 juil. 2014 22:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 1:24 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 22:21 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 12:49 PM, David Nyman wrote:
On 10 July 2014 19:39, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
In short
Le 10 juil. 2014 22:46, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 1:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 21:56 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 12:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 20:39 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10
Le 10 juil. 2014 23:40, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 2:08 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 10 juil. 2014 22:46, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 1:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-10 21:56 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
Le 11 juil. 2014 01:55, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 2:46 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 10 juil. 2014 23:40, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 2:08 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 10 juil. 2014 22:46, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit
Le 11 juil. 2014 02:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 5:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
It's my example and ex hypothesi they do go through the same states,
they're just *about* different things.
Either both are the same computation and goes through the same state
2014-07-11 8:10 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 10:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 11 juil. 2014 02:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10/2014 5:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
It's my example and ex hypothesi they do go through the same states
2014-07-11 8:48 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 11:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-11 8:10 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/10/2014 10:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 11 juil. 2014 02:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 7/10
Le 11 juil. 2014 19:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:37 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If the MWI is correct, the electron spin question is equivalent to the
teleporter question.
No it is not and I've given my reasons why it is not over and over
Le 12 juil. 2014 19:34, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
If there are two (and there are) why didn't Bruno Marchal ask
what cities John Clark will see from *a* 1p?
That is the 3p view *on* the future 1-views.
The?
2014-07-12 21:17 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/12/2014 1:23 AM, LizR wrote:
Brent,
You left me hanging a week or so ago, and never got back to me about
something I'm interested in finding out more about.
On 2 July 2014 23:14, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 July
2014-07-12 21:28 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/12/2014 2:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Jul 2014, at 22:26, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/11/2014 11:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Jul 2014, at 09:41, David Nyman wrote:
On 11 July 2014 00:54, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
2014-07-12 21:34 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/12/2014 4:23 AM, LizR wrote:
On 12 July 2014 07:58, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz, you missed my words about 'atheist' and 'agnostic'. Fighting AGAINST
something reqires SOME concept of the enemy, so an atheist
' those marvels. The most is: 'which MAY BE true
(or not).
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-07-12 21:17 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/12/2014 1:23 AM, LizR wrote:
Brent,
You left me hanging a week or so ago, and never
Le 13 juil. 2014 03:31, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 02:01:38AM +0200, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Either both are the same computation and goes through the same state
computing the same thing or they're not and don't go through the same
state
Le 13 juil. 2014 09:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com a écrit :
Le 13 juil. 2014 03:31, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au a
écrit :
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 02:01:38AM +0200, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Either both are the same computation and goes through the same state
Le 13 juil. 2014 10:21, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a écrit :
Comrades:
Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to
dress the Mao suit at least?
Just to know better what our Lords though for us, in order to love
them even more.
Don't be worried, fascists
Le 13 juil. 2014 10:34, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a écrit :
2014-07-13 10:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
Le 13 juil. 2014 10:21, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a
écrit :
Comrades:
Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed
comrades, and maybe
more capable to grasp one day the terrible consequences of this evil
planetarian cult.
2014-07-13 10:54 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
Le 13 juil. 2014 10:34, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a
écrit :
2014-07-13 10:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco
Le 13 juil. 2014 12:42, LizR lizj...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 12 July 2014 23:14, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 July 2014 05:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:37 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If the MWI is correct, the electron spin question is
.
2014-07-13 11:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
Le 13 juil. 2014 11:11, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a
écrit :
No doubt you have evil inside. And your sense of humorI know some
famous political psychopaths that would sign that joke.
You're a joke. Don't
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com:
Why do you need to see God to believe in God?
Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should you
believe instead of not believing or go eating an hamburger ?
Quentin
On 14-Jul-2014, at 2:14 am, meekerdb
-13 14:30 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com:
Le 13 juil. 2014 14:22, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com a
écrit :
I see
Ladies and gentleman: this is the shape of things to come. Nothing new
under the sun.
To appease your sadness, me and my evil friends will ensure
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com:
Why do you need to see God to believe in God?
Why should you believe if you can know ? If you can't, why should
2014-07-14 17:50 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com:
On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya
Le 14 juil. 2014 22:34, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com a écrit :
On 14-Jul-2014, at 12:00 pm, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-07-14 17:50 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com:
On 14-Jul-2014, at 11:25 am, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote
May I suggest you try water instead of corona ? Or maybe coconut water ? it
may help you to climb faster...
2014-07-15 13:44 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
Poor you.
It must be very hard to live with such insane hate against men.
It must hurt you a lot. You need help.
are.
Perhaps too much atheism can endanger the cognitive hability for
creating good jokes. I don´t know. Or it may be the consequences of
too much exposition to this particular atheists affirmation group.
Some controlled experiments are necessary.
2014-07-15 13:49 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux
2014-07-15 14:39 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
This new joke is even worse
Try burning something.
Hmm good idea, are you free for dinner ?
You are sick of hate, and you also are badly in need of help.
2014-07-15 14:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 12:53, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 12:09 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 14 Jul 2014, at 17:25, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-14 17:13 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
2014-07-17 17:04 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 16 Jul 2014, at 19:31, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-16 19:22 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:14, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-07-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
2014-07-29 16:30 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
whatever a computer does is just the movement of electrons around
circuits
And whatever a human brain does is just the movement of molecules
and ions around
2014-08-07 3:47 GMT+02:00 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au:
She lost me at about 6 minutes, which was all I was prepared to give
her to convince me she is not a total fruitloop.
mass surveillance by smart power meters? carbon tax inpingin on civil
liberties? mass drug programmes of the
2014-08-07 8:57 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
I see that not only Chris and Quentin will receive their bicycle and their
police badge.
See what I mean ...
You should take your pill (we will then come for you with our police badge).
2014-08-07 3:47 GMT+02:00 Russell
movement.
Cheers
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You see, you're a quick learner... in no time, you'll ask big brother to
forgive you... and he will ! Happy bonfire !
2014-08-07 16:43 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
sorry: ultramegasuperfascist, instead of ultramegsperfascist.
and even
Le 15 août 2014 06:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 8/14/2014 8:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 08:12:30PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
That does seem strange, but I don't know that it strikes me as
*absurd*. Isn't it clearer that a recording is not a
Le 15 août 2014 07:29, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au a écrit :
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 06:52:47AM +0200, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le 15 août 2014 06:41, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
OK. So do you think consciousness supervenes on such a simple
computation - one
Surely, it's because computationalism is a theory of the mind... Don't you
think?
Le 21 août 2014 11:52, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com a écrit :
Bruno: We assume comp, which requires consciousness by definition.
Richard: I sure did miss that part. I presumed that consciousness required
2014-09-03 18:38 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:54 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
on Bruno's theory, consciousness is a binary attribute, all-or-nothing.
Intelligence has degrees
If that is true (and I'm not saying it is) then we can
2014-09-17 19:09 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au
wrote:
Consciousness is “all or nothing”.
Then why can't you remember the split second before you fall asleep? If
it's all or nothing why would anybody say stay
2014-09-23 16:20 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Matter is a possible means to implement universal machine. That is of
course in need to be explained when we assume comp.
And this is a example of why I'm
2014-09-23 18:05 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
And this is a example of why I'm so certain that regardless of what you
say comp is NOT just a abbreviation for computationalism.
Computationalism says
Le 23 sept. 2014 22:35, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
Please explain how you could organize matter, or organize anything
else, without using information. And if it involves information
2014-09-24 0:36 GMT+02:00 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 04:57:20PM +0200, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-09-23 16:20 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
And this is a example of why I'm so certain that regardless of what you
say comp is NOT just
2014-09-24 8:58 GMT+02:00 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 9/23/2014 10:52 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
And I said it was also functionalism, because it was suggested that
copying the arrangement of matter in the same fashion would result in the
same consciousness... that could be false even
2014-09-24 18:56 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
George Cantor showed how to organize infinities, how to put them into
categories for example; but the method for doing so involves a finite
amount
2014-09-24 19:43 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
basically the idea that consciousness supervenes on matter.
Yes sure... but it is not computationalism, materialism does not say
anything about the mind
2014-09-24 19:55 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you deny some things are not computable ?
As I've already said, Turing proved 85 years ago that some things are not
computable.
Do you claim
Le 24 sept. 2014 23:37, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
If infinite precision is required then you become a new person every
time you take a sip of coffee, in fact you become a new person every time a
gas
2014-10-01 9:09 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com:
On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a
type information
Waouw, the great John Clark got it all... he knows everything in nature
is computable, that computationalism is true... and the best, he doesn't
need to prove it or provide an argument... it is so self evident. I wonder
why he didn't get the Nobel prize.
Le 8 oct. 2014 23:16, John Clark
2014-10-09 21:11 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
Waouw, the great John Clark got it all... he knows everything in
nature is computable
All the great John Clark knows is that as of today nobody anywhere
2014-10-09 22:02 GMT+02:00 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
As of todays nobody has shown how consciousness works
And what reason do you have to believe that consciousness has anything to
do with solving NP
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