Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer Science

2014-01-21 Thread Gabe Bodeen
(This and a few other everything-list messages were sent to my email box,
and I noticed that I hadn't seen them on the Google Groups website.  Sure
enough, they're not visible there.  I searched for them, and they show up
in the search list, but if I click on them, Google Groups crashes.  Any
idea what's up?)


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Colin Geoffrey Hales 
cgha...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:

  http://www.edge.org/response-detail/25377



 *Neil Gershenfeld* http://www.edge.org/memberbio/neil_gershenfeld

 *Physicist, Director, MIT's Center for Bits and Atoms; Author, FAB*



 Totally agree: He blames Turing and von Neumann



 So do I.



 We stopped doing real empirical work on the inorganic brain 60 years ago.
 We failed for 60 years to make an inorganic brain.



 Computer “Science” was never and never will be an empirical science at
 all. It is 100% the experimental exploration of theoretical models  and
 has been generationally systemically confused with empirical science.



 Party’s over.



 Cheers

 Colin



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Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer Science

2014-01-21 Thread Gabe Bodeen
Hi Stephen,
I'm viewing these emails from Gmail.  They don't show up on the list at
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/everything-list whether I am logged
out or logged in.  However, I can search for them on that webpage.  If I
click the search results, a fresh installation of Chrome fails to load it
(but fortunately does not crash).  If it were just a privacy settings
issue, then presumably the posts shouldn't show up in my email. :)
-Gabe


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Stephen Paul King 
stephe...@provensecure.com wrote:

 Dear Gage,

   Are you attempting to view the Google group from a Google+ or Gmail
 environment?


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Gabe Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote:

 (This and a few other everything-list messages were sent to my email box,
 and I noticed that I hadn't seen them on the Google Groups website.  Sure
 enough, they're not visible there.  I searched for them, and they show up
 in the search list, but if I click on them, Google Groups crashes.  Any
 idea what's up?)


 On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Colin Geoffrey Hales 
 cgha...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:

  http://www.edge.org/response-detail/25377



 *Neil Gershenfeld* http://www.edge.org/memberbio/neil_gershenfeld

 *Physicist, Director, MIT's Center for Bits and Atoms; Author, FAB*



 Totally agree: He blames Turing and von Neumann



 So do I.



 We stopped doing real empirical work on the inorganic brain 60 years
 ago. We failed for 60 years to make an inorganic brain.



 Computer “Science” was never and never will be an empirical science at
 all. It is 100% the experimental exploration of theoretical models  and
 has been generationally systemically confused with empirical science.



 Party’s over.



 Cheers

 Colin



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